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-----Original Message-----
From: Lance Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:16:01 
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Subject: catalina27-talk: Remove from list


Phil, 
I asked last week to be removed from this list yet I still receive daily 
e-mails. However, the Off Topic tirades have greatly decreased so I'm willing 
to hold on a wee bit longer. 
  
  
Lance Jones
Commodore, Barefoot Sailing Club
Catalina 27TR SN 5455 Gaelforce!
Capri 25 SN 411 Scottish Rebel! 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Phil Agur <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 5:16 PM 
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Quesdtion about solar pannels 

 
 
Joe, 
  
Solar goes from a little flexible pad that is the equivalent of a wall wart 
trickle charger to a multi-panel system capable of running all of cruising 
boat’s systems with no other power. 
  
Both ends of the scale are well defined but the middle ground is buyer beware. 
I think we got 6 panels on my brother’s boat for a total of 840 watts. We went 
with a Morningstar regulator I flush mounted in a replacement teak panel above 
the navigation station. 
  
http://www.morningstarcorp.com/products/ProStar/index.shtml 
<http://www.morningstarcorp.com/products/ProStar/index.shtml> 
  
Certainly if a 60 watt occasionally run alternator is keeping her charged now 
then you may not need anything more than 60 watts. The occasional use may 
become the tricky part. The solar is only going to output it’s rated wattage in 
the tropics (the angle of the sun’s ray impacts the total available energy) 
during midday. 
  
We have a 60 watt system (two thirty 30 watt – frameless) with a 
non-temperature compensated regulator and it’s too much to leave connected all 
the time. Letting it winter here will fry the batteries in a few months. The 
cure would be to go to the Morningstar regulator, which is a temperature 
regulated smart charger, instead of the simple voltage regulator I have now. 
Know you can have some reserve power without overcharging. 
  
The other approach is a simple flexible low power solar trickle charger. It 
won’t have the capacity to fight the batteries being run down by a running 
bilge pump but it shines in ease of use. 
  
The best folks to ask are the ones around you geologically. 
  
Boat US would also recommend you change any above water through-hull fittings 
to brass. Their insurance records are full of cases where freezing water 
cracked an above water fitting and a temporary snow load pushed it below the 
waterline.   
  
 
Phil Agur                             s/v Wing Tip 
Secretary/Treasurer     Call Sign WCW3485 
IC27/270A                          MMSI 366901790 
 <http://www.catalina27.org/> www.catalina27.org    Vessel Doc# 1039809 
  
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Joe McCary
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 6:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: catalina27-talk: Quesdtion about solar pannels 
  
My boat, new to me this past spring, has an outboard (9.9 Honda) and charges 
batteries just fine.  But I am worried about what happens over the winter. I 
plan to keep her in the water (private slip, no electricity).  She will not get 
the use she has had over the warm months and I am worried about the batteries 
(2) draining and the bilge pump not working.  I have considered a wind 
generator but think a solar panel would do just fine.  The boat point almost 
due North so the stern will have a nice southerly exposure.  I would like to 
get a solar panel that I could mount on the lazuratte hatch.  I know that there 
are electronic devices to put in line that will prevent over charge and I plan 
to get one of these also.  My question is, can anyone recommend what size solar 
panel to buy and maybe what brands or models I should look at.  I should note 
that the winters here on the Bay are mild and while we do get snow, it is 
nothing like our friends in Alaska.  I could also mount the p!
 anel on the cabin top as well if the thought is that would be better.  Also, 
any thoughts on having the panel connected to both batteries instead of just 
one. 
  
 
Joe McCary 
Aeolus II # 4795 
West River, MD 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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