Timmy,
You have a Macintosh ibook ?    That's the 3rd guy I know has one.
Pat  ( undercover grandson )
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Remove from list


O thin men of Haddem,
do you not see the
unsubscribe link
on the members page?

tf
with apologies to Wallace Stevens

sent from my Macintosh iBook by Comcast


This is now my third request to be removed from the list.
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From: Lance Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:16:01
To:[email protected]
Subject: catalina27-talk: Remove from list


Phil,
I asked last week to be removed from this list yet I still receive daily
e-mails. However, the Off Topic tirades have greatly decreased so I'm
willing to hold on a wee bit longer.


Lance Jones
Commodore, Barefoot Sailing Club
Catalina 27TR SN 5455 Gaelforce!
Capri 25 SN 411 Scottish Rebel!

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Agur <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Quesdtion about solar pannels



Joe,

Solar goes from a little flexible pad that is the equivalent of a wall
wart trickle charger to a multi-panel system capable of running all of
cruising boat's systems with no other power.

Both ends of the scale are well defined but the middle ground is buyer
beware. I think we got 6 panels on my brother's boat for a total of 840
watts. We went with a Morningstar regulator I flush mounted in a
replacement teak panel above the navigation station.

http://www.morningstarcorp.com/products/ProStar/index.shtml
<http://www.morningstarcorp.com/products/ProStar/index.shtml>

Certainly if a 60 watt occasionally run alternator is keeping her charged
now then you may not need anything more than 60 watts. The occasional use
may become the tricky part. The solar is only going to output it's rated
wattage in the tropics (the angle of the sun's ray impacts the total
available energy) during midday.

We have a 60 watt system (two thirty 30 watt - frameless) with a
non-temperature compensated regulator and it's too much to leave connected
all the time. Letting it winter here will fry the batteries in a few
months. The cure would be to go to the Morningstar regulator, which is a
temperature regulated smart charger, instead of the simple voltage
regulator I have now. Know you can have some reserve power without
overcharging.

The other approach is a simple flexible low power solar trickle charger.
It won't have the capacity to fight the batteries being run down by a
running bilge pump but it shines in ease of use.

The best folks to ask are the ones around you geologically.

Boat US would also recommend you change any above water through-hull
fittings to brass. Their insurance records are full of cases where
freezing water cracked an above water fitting and a temporary snow load
pushed it below the waterline.


Phil Agur                             s/v Wing Tip
Secretary/Treasurer     Call Sign WCW3485
IC27/270A                          MMSI 366901790
 <http://www.catalina27.org/> www.catalina27.org    Vessel Doc# 1039809

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe McCary
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 6:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: catalina27-talk: Quesdtion about solar pannels

My boat, new to me this past spring, has an outboard (9.9 Honda) and
charges batteries just fine.  But I am worried about what happens over the
winter. I plan to keep her in the water (private slip, no electricity).
She will not get the use she has had over the warm months and I am worried
about the batteries (2) draining and the bilge pump not working.  I have
considered a wind generator but think a solar panel would do just fine.
The boat point almost due North so the stern will have a nice southerly
exposure.  I would like to get a solar panel that I could mount on the
lazuratte hatch.  I know that there are electronic devices to put in line
that will prevent over charge and I plan to get one of these also.  My
question is, can anyone recommend what size solar panel to buy and maybe
what brands or models I should look at.  I should note that the winters
here on the Bay are mild and while we do get snow, it is nothing like our
friends in Alaska.  I could also mount the p!
 anel on the cabin top as well if the thought is that would be better.
Also, any thoughts on having the panel connected to both batteries
instead of just one.


Joe McCary
Aeolus II # 4795
West River, MD
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