The C27 sails great with just the jib. I have a standard rig and use a
130 RF jib and sail that way all the time. It is true you can't point
quite as high, but close - maybe within 5 degrees or so. And it's not
as fast - but with 15-20 knots it's still easy to get close to hull
speed. And in high winds it's actually better balanced than even with a
second reefed main.
The inverse is not true - it sails like a dog with just the main.
Someone else asked about why to use the traveler to dump the main
(instead of sheeting out). You use the traveler because it maintains
the sail shape - the boom doesn't come up.
John Harker C27 Prana 6261 Santa Cruz
DHoy wrote:
I just don't believe it is possible to sail as close to the wind as
the boat should without the mainsail in working to weather. This is
considering sailing "in the slot" just below where she begins to
stall. When going to weather a standard C-27 sails best slightly off
or below this point to maintain drive, but you do need to use and
control the main and adjust the backstay according to conditions.
Dave Hoy
WYANOKEE #6295
Camden, Maine
Judith Blumhorst, DC wrote:
Chris,
How high can you point a C27 with the 155 driving the boat and the
mainsail dumped? What do you do to get them upwind with just a
headsail?
I've never tried sailing much that way in the C27, so I'm relatively
clueless about the finer points of sailing that way. I can imagine
choosing to sail on a reach or downwind underr headsail only, being a
lazy sailor sometime, but not upwind.
I've goofed around with sailing under headsail only on several boats,
excluding the C27, but I wasn't favorably impressed with the way they
performed under headsail only above a close reach....
I've done it on J24s, J80s and J105s - but only to practice in case
something happens in the marina, like the motor quitting in side the
marina, after the mainsail is already stowed and you need to get the
boat under control ASAP... and it's blowing 25-30 kts inside
Berkeley Marina on SF Bay. A headsail works fine to get you to a
dock safely, but I've never tried sailing under headsail for any
pleasure sailing.
The J boats didn't point very well that way, good enough for getting
the boat safely to a dock, but not good enough for "real" sailing,
IMO. But the J boats are fractional rigs.
I often dump the main to quiet a boat down when it's lumpy and
bumpy... like when somebody has to use the head... or when
somebody has to reef a headsail up at the mast.... but that's the
extent of my experience with headsail only.
Fair winds,
Judy B
C27 Tall Rig, "Bijou"
San Francisco Bay, CA
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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:21:34 PM
Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Yesterdays sail -- 2 fingers on tiller
I should probably just shut up as ALL of my experience is with a
standard rig and in winds under 18 knots and also in a racing
configuration we always sail with a 150-155 jib and full main. When
the wind pipes up and we are unable to change out the headsails we
just dump the main and let the jib power the boat. If we can change
out the headsail the vast majority of the boats will change to a
135-140 and keep the full main in place. Again just dump the main
and let the headsail power the boat. This is a Chesapeake Bay set
up where we rarely experience more than 20 other than in storms and
they are usually short lived.
We were out tonight racing (a 4.6 mile course that was roughly w/l
and non-spin class) and I was very aware of the "2 fingers" thing and
with our 153 we had up and full main, I was easily able to control
the boat on both upwind and down legs with just 2 fingers. I never
once called for an ease on the main, but several times asked for
trim. Granted the only other C27 and really our only competition in
this PHRF series sailed the wrong course and sailed by the first
windward mark so we were kind of taking it easy, but we still sail
pretty hard so the competition wasn't as much a factor as making the
boat go as fast as possible.
In fact we overtook several boats in the PHRF class that started 5
minutes ahead of us and when I tallied the whole PHRF non spin boats
we would have beat a bunch of much larger boats on handicap. And I
haven't cleaned my bottom in over 4 weeks in the hot Chesapeake
summer so the slime must be considerable. The bottom will be clean
next week even though we are ahead by 7 points (3-10) in the class
with 2 races to go.
Chris D
toy box
eastport, md
