On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Donald Stufft <donald.stu...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Aaron Meurer wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Monty Taylor <mord...@inaugust.com> wrote: On 02/27/2013 02:47 PM, Aaron Meurer wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:37 AM, holger krekel <hol...@merlinux.eu> wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 19:34 +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:34 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> wrote: I'm not saying that it's not a good idea to host packages on PyPI, but forcing the community into doing this is not a good idea. I still don't understand why not. The only reasons I've seen are "Because they don't want to" or "because they don't trust PyPI". And in the latter case I'm assuming they wouldn't use PyPI at all. And of course, nobody is forcing anyone, just like nobody is forcing you to use PyPI. :-) I understood there is the idea to disable external links within a couple of months. That does break backward compatibility in a considerable way. holger But wouldn't this only be a change in pip/easy_install, not PyPI itself? I suppose you could explicitly break the external links by having them point to nothing if you are worried about the security or if it's some performance issue (that would indeed be a bad compatibility break, in case people are using those for other purposes). Otherwise, if it's a problem, then just use the old version of pip. If we don't remove the feature from pypi itself, then it won't help the folks for whom its a problem, because there will be no incentive for the folks hosting their software that way to actually upload their stuff to PyPI - which means that client-side disabling of external_links is fairly likely to never be usable. How would you remove it from PyPI itself? Would that just require changing some urls, so that pip doesn't know where to find stuff any more? Modify the PyPI software to no longer link to those urls. Right. As I was saying, this would break any other tools that might use those urls, perhaps for less nefarious purposes. But then again, that's somewhat speculative. If someone can point out something that uses them, that will be something to consider, but for now, the main thing we know uses it is pip (and easy_install), and the whole point is to break them. Aaron Meurer Sorry if this is obvious. I'm not a pip/PyPI developer. Just a package maintainer who has been irked several times by pip's/PyPI's/easy_install's idiotic external links policy.
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