On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Aaron Meurer <asmeu...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Donald Stufft <donald.stu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Aaron Meurer wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Monty Taylor <mord...@inaugust.com> wrote: > > > > On 02/27/2013 02:47 PM, Aaron Meurer wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:37 AM, holger krekel <hol...@merlinux.eu> wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 19:34 +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:34 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> wrote: > > I'm not saying that it's not a good idea to host packages on PyPI, > but forcing the community into doing this is not a good idea. > > > I still don't understand why not. The only reasons I've seen are > "Because they don't want to" or "because they don't trust PyPI". And > in the latter case I'm assuming they wouldn't use PyPI at all. > > And of course, nobody is forcing anyone, just like nobody is forcing > you to use PyPI. :-) > > > I understood there is the idea to disable external links within a couple > of months. That does break backward compatibility in a considerable way. > > holger > > > But wouldn't this only be a change in pip/easy_install, not PyPI > itself? I suppose you could explicitly break the external links by > having them point to nothing if you are worried about the security or > if it's some performance issue (that would indeed be a bad > compatibility break, in case people are using those for other > purposes). Otherwise, if it's a problem, then just use the old > version of pip. > > > If we don't remove the feature from pypi itself, then it won't help the > folks for whom its a problem, because there will be no incentive for the > folks hosting their software that way to actually upload their stuff to > PyPI - which means that client-side disabling of external_links is > fairly likely to never be usable. > > > How would you remove it from PyPI itself? Would that just require > changing some urls, so that pip doesn't know where to find stuff any > more? > > Modify the PyPI software to no longer link to those urls. > > > Right. As I was saying, this would break any other tools that might use > those urls, perhaps for less nefarious purposes. But then again, that's > somewhat speculative. If someone can point out something that uses them, > that will be something to consider, but for now, the main thing we know uses > it is pip (and easy_install), and the whole point is to break them. > > Aaron Meurer > > > Sorry if this is obvious. I'm not a pip/PyPI developer. Just a > package maintainer who has been irked several times by > pip's/PyPI's/easy_install's idiotic external links policy.
Or just expose a new "no external links" API the same as the simple API (pretty sure crate offers this) that will be the default in the next release of pip, giving people a little more control over when their packaging tool breaks. _______________________________________________ Catalog-SIG mailing list Catalog-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/catalog-sig
