You are right, I have to concede that I started the vote too early (too eager to get the JPA stuff going I guess :-)). So let's consider this a discussion thread, and postpone the vote till we come to some consensus.

Basically there is a dilemma that we need to solve. Jeff hasn't contributed to Cayenne before and thus giving him committer status right now would be against our normal practice. On the other hand he volunteered to do work in the very important area, and we should figure out a good way to do that.

So while trust my instincts that this cooperation will work out well, bending the rules is not a good idea. So maybe start with Jira patches, and do the committer vote after we learn more about Jeff and Jeff learns more about Cayenne??

What's everyone's thoughts on that?

Andrus



On Mar 24, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:

I'm not sure how to word this delicately, so I'll just go bluntly instead.
The problem is that I've never heard of Jeff.  Indeed, a quick search
through my local archive of the dev and user lists, going back about a year,
show nothing from Jeff at all.  So, while he may be very qualified, I
unfortunately have no way to gauge that.  Perhaps a mini-bio would be
appropriate.  Activity in the Cayenne community would be better.

On the other hand, Andrus has given it his blessing. As Andrus has done a
pretty good job steering the project thus far and he is the primary
contributor, his endorsement means a lot.

In any event, I'm all for building up relations with other projects. I just
don't have enough information to give this a thumbs up.

So for now:

Kevin Menard: -0 (binding)

Although, I'm a pretty open-minded person. If my concerns can be addressed
in a reasonable manner, I have no qualms about changing my vote.

--
Kevin


On 3/24/06 7:28 AM, "Andrus Adamchik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Folks,

Jeff Genender asked if he can become a Cayenne committer. He is an
Apache committer (OpenEJB and Geronimo) and wants to help us with the
JPA effort and integration with Geronimo. IMO it is great that we are
finding synergies with Geronimo community, so I am excited about Jeff
coming on board.

My +1.

Andrus




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