Jeff,
True, our project is different from a brand new incubating project in
that we have a team and a product. This discussion made this
distinction clear to me, as I kept wondering about how casually
people ask to become a committer on the incubator list ... this of
course would make sense for the *new* new projects.
See you on Jira. Not sure if you are subscribed to the dev list,
probably a good idea when we start discussing technical issues.
Cheers,
Andrus
Begin forwarded message:
From: Jeff Genender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: March 24, 2006 7:18:01 PM GMT+03:00
To: Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Committer status for Jeff Genender
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andrus,
No problem here. My thoughts about the committership were definitely
not to break the rules of meritocracy, and I surely hope I did not
give
that impression.
My thoughts were the opportunity of Apache incubation where w/in that
time period, you have the ability to add on Apache people to help out
from a committership perspective. This is a common thing at Apache,
where when a project comes in through the incubator, other Apache
committers may show an interest in a project and ask to become a part,
and you are able to put together a team of Apache and non-Apache
people.
So I was really just taking the opportunity to take advantage of this
time to expedite my ability to help out.
Nevertheless, I am pleased you have such a strong community that cares
about knowing all of the developers. This is great, so yes, please
allow me the ability to submit patches and such and earn my way in. I
think this is the best way to get on board, especially from a
community
perspective...and its the Apache way ;-)
Feel free to share this with the rest of the Cayenne team.
Thanks for yours, and your team's consideration..and see you on
JIRA ;-)
Jeff
Andrus Adamchik wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
From: Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: March 24, 2006 5:41:21 PM GMT+03:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Committer status for Jeff Genender
You are right, I have to concede that I started the vote too early
(too eager to get the JPA stuff going I guess :-)). So let's
consider
this a discussion thread, and postpone the vote till we come to some
consensus.
Basically there is a dilemma that we need to solve. Jeff hasn't
contributed to Cayenne before and thus giving him committer status
right now would be against our normal practice. On the other hand he
volunteered to do work in the very important area, and we should
figure out a good way to do that.
So while trust my instincts that this cooperation will work out
well,
bending the rules is not a good idea. So maybe start with Jira
patches, and do the committer vote after we learn more about Jeff
and
Jeff learns more about Cayenne??
What's everyone's thoughts on that?
Andrus
On Mar 24, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
I'm not sure how to word this delicately, so I'll just go bluntly
instead.
The problem is that I've never heard of Jeff. Indeed, a quick
search
through my local archive of the dev and user lists, going back
about
a year,
show nothing from Jeff at all. So, while he may be very
qualified, I
unfortunately have no way to gauge that. Perhaps a mini-bio
would be
appropriate. Activity in the Cayenne community would be better.
On the other hand, Andrus has given it his blessing. As Andrus has
done a
pretty good job steering the project thus far and he is the primary
contributor, his endorsement means a lot.
In any event, I'm all for building up relations with other
projects.
I just
don't have enough information to give this a thumbs up.
So for now:
Kevin Menard: -0 (binding)
Although, I'm a pretty open-minded person. If my concerns can be
addressed
in a reasonable manner, I have no qualms about changing my vote.
--Kevin
On 3/24/06 7:28 AM, "Andrus Adamchik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Folks,
Jeff Genender asked if he can become a Cayenne committer. He is an
Apache committer (OpenEJB and Geronimo) and wants to help us
with the
JPA effort and integration with Geronimo. IMO it is great that
we are
finding synergies with Geronimo community, so I am excited
about Jeff
coming on board.
My +1.
Andrus
