Borut and Ari,

Thanks a lot for offering help with site design! I also appreciate the focus on usability. I'll comment about navigation in a separate message, here is general comments on the design.

* I like the idea of having disjoint content modules
* I do not like the look of the preview (I understand this was just to demonstrate the idea). We may need to come up with alternative skins. * Officially we are called "Apache Cayenne", even though we are still in the incubator. While we are at it, we may update the logo with the word "Apache". * In the header we may need to incorporate the incubator logo (to be replaced with Apache official logo on graduation). * All documentation (probably 70% of the entire site) is served via Wiki. So it would be nice to come up with a common look between the site and Confluence. Just to give a feel of what's involved, here is a Velocity template used by Confluence auto-export plugin to render static HTML contents:

http://people.apache.org/~aadamchik/confluence-template.txt

* It would be nice to display at least the titles of the latest news items on the front page.

Andrus



On Sep 9, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote:
On 09/09/2006, at 4:27 AM, Borut Bolčina wrote:

Hello,

have a look at http://svarog.homeip.net/cayenne/

Most work is to be invested in documentation section. Properly divided
sections, PDF versions, ...
Also the right side is empty.

Suggestions welcome.

I think this is an improvement on the current site, but we could do better in some ways:

* the design should be css based, not a table based design. This will make it much easier to reskin and update in the future. It also makes it easier to add content over time. A css based design is better for accessibility reasons and better for printing.

* it shouldn't be done in Dreamweaver which leaves lots of ugly javascript behind

* I don't like navigation which runs in several directions on the site. Here we have primary navigation running across from the top left, which is limiting in its ability to expand to add new items. Then navigation at the top right which also runs across, but to the left, and finally navigation on the right which runs vertically. The problems I have are:

 - why are there three sets of navigation?
- what happens as we want to add navigation to levels 2 and 3 and they collide in the middle on small screens? - what happens on small screens when you can't see the navigation to the right?


I'd like to work with Borut and the advances he has made, and furthermore to sponsor our graphic designer to work on the design with us and the community. His work can be seen here: http:// www.brucemartin.net/


Cheers
Ari Maniatis




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