Hi All,

I can provide a little bit more information about Kipp Island that may
be of interest.  The fields north and south of the Thruway became part
of the Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge in their entirety in 2012,
and we designated them Cayuga Flats North and Cayuga Flats South.
This is the only property the Refuge owns in Cayuga County.  When the
fields were privately owned, the entire area was diked to keep canal
waters out, and any water laying on the field as a result of rain and
snow was pumped or drained out so the fields could be farmed.  The
refuge has installed water control structures to provide some water
level control capability (although we’re mostly dependent on rain and
snow fall at this location) and built a dike at the north end of the
field south of the Thruway so the fields can be managed separately if
needed.  We planted native wetland plant seeds, collected by
volunteers, on 21 acres (the total area is 215 acres).  A student from
ESF will be assessing the success of this planting this summer.  We
are conducting weekly waterbird counts at these locations, as we do at
all of our impoundments.  As always, all of your observations are very
helpful to us as we assess the success of our management and
restoration activities.

Thank you,

Linda Chorba Ziemba
Wildlife Biologist
Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge
3395 US Route 20 East
Seneca Falls, NY 13148-9423
Phone:  315-568-5987 ext. 225
Fax:  315-568-8835



On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:39 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> As I said, I occasionally screw up E & W, and I even did it in that email.
> My parenthetical sentence
> "I guess it is SW of I-90, but it's W of NYS-90"
> should have said
> "I guess it is SE of I-90, but it's W of NYS-90"
>
> Meanwhile the good folks at eBird have ALREADY corrected the SE/SW confusion
> as well as changed the name to Kipp Island, and they have changed the
> reference to the woods south of Stewart Park to Renwick Woods instead of
> Fuertes. Thanks!
>
> --Dave Nutter
>
>
> On May 13, 2013, at 12:21 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> One of the confusing things about the eBird name for Kip Island Fields
> (other than that I too never saw any other reference to it) is that it
> describes the location as SE of the two highways, whereas maps clearly show
> the area to be SW of the conjunction of those two roads. I am not immune to
> making such E v W mistakes or giving confusing directions (I guess it is SW
> of I-90, but it's W of NYS-90) in emails. The problem I see is the
> difficulty (impossibility?) of changing the eBird name for the site. At
> least I don't know how do it for my personal sites let alone for hotspots.
>
> Other birding hotspots also have been misnamed. For instance, the triangular
> woods south of Stewart Park is not Fuertes Sanctuary, which refers to the
> swan pond (note the historical bronze marker). It should instead refer to
> Renwick Bird Sanctuary or Renwick Wildwood as on the concrete arch.
>
> --Dave Nutter
>
>
> On May 13, 2013, at 09:30 AM, Stuart Krasnoff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> This is in response to several requests for location info on "Kip's Island
> Fields" which I had never heard of before Tim Lenz's CayugaRBA of Glossy
> Ibis and Ruff from there and Jay McGowan's relay to the list.
>
> I was with Gary Kohlenberg last Friday and did not see either rare bird but
> reported Black-bellied Plover.  I have gotten several requests for location
> info.   Gary found the site by using Tim Lenz's ebird checklist map info.
>
> Tim Lenz's checklist corresponding to his original report :
>
> http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S14057602
>
> has the location of
>
> "Kip Island Fields (SE of SR 90 & I-90 Thruway), Cayuga County, New York, US
> "
>
> as
>
> 42.997114, -76.718999 or
> +42° 59' 49.61", -76° 43' 8.40
>
> If you are coming from the north go south through the village of Montezuma.
> Stay on NYS 90 and run along the thruway and look for the dirt parking area
> as described below.
>
> If you are coming up from Union Springs on 90 just where it bends to the
> northeast to run along the Thruway there's a dirt parking area with some
> heavy equipment parked there.  There's a Refuge sign on a gate.  We  saw
> distant shorebirds far to the left (est. 500-700 meters off).
>
> Maybe Tim could refine this if it needs any correction.
>
> Best...Stuart
>
>
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