Hi All,
 I thought I might way in on this discussion about whether birds are disturbed 
by people out of their cars. As a photographer, I can say it most certainly 
does. Anytime that people are out of their vehicles, the birds are gone or 
moved a considerable distance away when I have been in the wake of this 
behavior.  I find it is both photographer and birders with scopes that are 
guilty of this. Personally, things viewed with a scope are not of interest to 
me, so yes, it does make a difference if people out of cars push the birds 
further away.  I find that no one seems to be enforcing the rule as it stands 
because people have told me that the refuge vehicles drove by them and did not 
say anything. It has been very frustrating to photograph anything especially 
this year with this turn of events, so I too would like clarification of what 
is allowed.  If people did stay in their car, it would allow for others to see 
more in my opinion. I know in other areas, birds are less shy, but it does not 
seem to be the case here. I realize that most people are unaware that they 
change things by not staying in their car, but I think I get my best 
opportunities and views if I practice patience and keeping a low profile using 
my vehicle as a blind.


Diana Whiting

Diana Whiting
dianawhitingphotography.com
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