I agree with Diana. My experiences have been much the same as hers. When people get out of their cars the birds either fly away or move out farther which makes it more difficult for most photographers and those without scopes. The Refuge needs to enforce and clarify their rules. Why did the Refuge, long ago, change it to no one out of their cars? If they allow walking there again, it will take a long time for the birds to become used to people out of their cars. I've always believed that using the car as a blind allows one to see more. But I guess if I could get out of the car I could sit down by the water in a bag blind to photograph and bird. Again, the refuge would need to post rules on how far off the road one could go. Just more complications.
Sent from my iPad > On Aug 2, 2014, at 11:11 PM, Diana <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi All, > I thought I might way in on this discussion about whether birds are disturbed > by people out of their cars. As a photographer, I can say it most certainly > does. Anytime that people are out of their vehicles, the birds are gone or > moved a considerable distance away when I have been in the wake of this > behavior. I find it is both photographer and birders with scopes that are > guilty of this. Personally, things viewed with a scope are not of interest to > me, so yes, it does make a difference if people out of cars push the birds > further away. I find that no one seems to be enforcing the rule as it stands > because people have told me that the refuge vehicles drove by them and did > not say anything. It has been very frustrating to photograph anything > especially this year with this turn of events, so I too would like > clarification of what is allowed. If people did stay in their car, it would > allow for others to see more in my opinion. I know in other areas, birds are > less shy, but it does not seem to be the case here. I realize that most > people are unaware that they change things by not staying in their car, but I > think I get my best opportunities and views if I practice patience and > keeping a low profile using my vehicle as a blind. > > > Diana Whiting > > Diana Whiting > dianawhitingphotography.com > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
