According to Pyle and Sibley and the Bird Banding Lab, one can not
safely call a Western on visual. At least two measurements are required.
Plumage and bill characteristics can provide some additional help but
feather wear, age and known geographic variations make such a call iffy
at best without the vocalization.

Always good to check out a possible. Thanks Chris.
John

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John and Sue Gregoire
Field Ornithologists
Kestrel Haven Migration Observatory
5373 Fitzgerald Rd
Burdett, NY 14818
42.443508000, -76.758202000 
On 2018-10-21 16:13, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes wrote:

> Only spreading the word... 
> 
> Better to inform of a possible good bird now (even if proven to be common 
> Eastern), than find out about a possible good bird that was later determined 
> to be good, well after the fact... 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2018, at 12:00, "k...@empacc.net" <k...@empacc.net> wrote:
> 
> What makes you think this is a Western?Unless things have changed one can't 
> make the call by eyeball as at least two measurements are required. Plumage 
> and bill charcateritics can provide some help but feather wear, age and known 
> geo variations make that iffy at best.
> John
> 
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> John and Sue Gregoire
> Field Ornithologists
> Kestrel Haven Migration Observatory
> 5373 Fitzgerald Rd
> Burdett, NY 14818
> 42.443508000, -76.758202000 
> On 2018-10-21 15:50, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes wrote: 
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