Are there any mink in the area?  (possible if there is a stream or other body 
of water nearby; I’ve seen mink in and around Virgil Creek in Freeville)

Mink often kill and cache, but on the Maine seabird islands they also leave 
incubating tern adults on the nest after they’ve killed them with a single bite 
to the back of the neck.

I didn’t catch the original emails about this, but after reading the latter 
part of the conversation, my mind flashed back to seeing “killing fields” left 
in a nesting tern colony.

Rose Borzik

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<bounce-124669159-24907...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-124669159-24907...@list.cornell.edu>>
 On Behalf Of Gary Kohlenberg
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 1:23 PM
To: Andrew David Miller 
<andrew.mil...@cornell.edu<mailto:andrew.mil...@cornell.edu>>
Cc: Suan Hsi Yong <suan.y...@gmail.com<mailto:suan.y...@gmail.com>>; 
CAYUGABIRDS-L 
<cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>>
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

Thanks Andrew,
I copied below the response I just received from Jenny Landry at DEC.
She has kindly forwarded my email to Region 7 for a possible follow up and/or 
collection.
Gary

Gary,

The behavior you describe sounds a bit like botulism and perhaps there was some 
predation. I seems  too early in the season for Type E (and even C), although 
we did have a short spell of very hot weather. I am not that familiar with the 
location. I am forwarding your email to the Wildlife Manager in Region 7.  It 
sounds like there are a handful of birds and it has been fairly cool the last 
few days. If the birds are still there, accessible, and in decent condition, 
the Region 7 folks may want try to collect some for our pathology folks to 
examine.

Jenny A. Landry
Ecologist I
Region 8 Bureau of Wildlife
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
6274 East Avon-Lima Road<x-apple-data-detectors://1>
Avon, NY 14414<x-apple-data-detectors://1>

On Jun 1, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Andrew David Miller 
<andrew.mil...@cornell.edu<mailto:andrew.mil...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

Any dead wildlife in New York State can be submitted to the NYS wildlife health 
unit if the circumstances are appropriate.  There is a facility in Delmar as 
well as one here associated with the NYS diagnostic laboratory next to the 
veterinary college.  However, the reporting and submission of any dead wildlife 
needs to be done through the DEC.  Details can be found here:

https://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/6957.html

The regional DEC office will be able to provide more information.  I must 
stress that picking up dead wildlife should be avoided by members of the 
public.  Many animals harbor zoonotic diseases, some of which can still be 
transmitted to humans even after death. Report the mallards to the DEC regional 
office and they will take it from there.

-Andrew


Andrew D. Miller DVM, Dipl. ACVP
Associate Professor
Biomedical Sciences, Section of Anatomic Pathology

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 On Behalf Of Suan Hsi Yong
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 8:45 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
<cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>>
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30

Would any local facility be willing to do a necropsy if someone were willing to 
retrieve the bodies?

Suan

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 8:29 AM Gary Kohlenberg 
<jg...@cornell.edu<mailto:jg...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Thanks John and Sue,

What would the likelihood of botulism be in your opinion? The issues MNWR had 
were some years ago and I don’t know how prevalent it is.

Gary

On Jun 1, 2020, at 6:37 AM, 
"k...@empireaccess.net<mailto:k...@empireaccess.net>" 
<k...@empireaccess.net<mailto:k...@empireaccess.net>> wrote:


You folks know that area and the ducks but, as most ducks sleep on the water, 
the idea of a terrestrial predator doesn't fly. Snappers may scoop up numerous 
ducklings and goslings and can attack an adult but not several. I wouldn't put 
away the human possibility.
John
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5373 Fitzgerald Rd
Burdett, NY 14818-9626
"Conserve and Create Habitat"
N 42.44307 W 76.75784



On 2020-05-31 20:26, John and Fritzie Blizzard wrote:

Are any of you considering a night-time attack when the ducks would have been 
asleep & not aware of danger from owl or weasel? I agree with Chris.

Fritzie Bllizzard
On May 31, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes 
<c...@cornell.edu><mailto:c...@cornell.edu> wrote:

 Just throwing this out there as another possibility: weasel or ferret.

This is, as I understand it, classic kill method used by these Mustelids. 
They’ve been know to kill off an entire flock of chickens in a night, 
severing heads with minimal disruption to the rest of the body.

Thoughts?

Sincerely,
Chris T-H




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