We watched a turtle grab a Pied-billed Grebe and pull it under. It got free and the turtle did it again. The second time, the Grebe flew away
Glenn Wilson Endicott, NY www.WilsonsWarbler.com On May 31, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk <l...@cornell.edu> wrote: Consider the snapping turtle as a possibility. They have been known to attack mature ducks as well as to take ducklings, which is more common. From: bounce-124666854-3493...@list.cornell.edu <bounce-124666854-3493...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Gary Kohlenberg <jg...@cornell.edu> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 2:29 PM To: Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes <c...@cornell.edu> Cc: Sandy Podulka <s...@cornell.edu>; CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Murder most Fowl - Saturday 5/30 I hadn’t thought of Mustelid or Possum as Wes suggested as a culprit. As only one bird lost his head that could be predation after death. One other bird dead with head attached and another dying with possible neck issues makes the suggestion of botulism by Kevin Cummings and Morgan Hapeman interesting. I know Montezuma has had problems with this in the past. The water in Shindagin is pretty stagnant which could be a problem. It also better answers the unlikely idea of multiple birds shot in such a manner. Gary On May 31, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes <c...@cornell.edu> wrote: Just throwing this out there as another possibility: weasel or ferret. This is, as I understand it, classic kill method used by these Mustelids. They’ve been know to kill off an entire flock of chickens in a night, severing heads with minimal disruption to the rest of the body. Thoughts? Sincerely, Chris T-H Sent from my iPhone > On May 31, 2020, at 11:07, Sandy Podulka <s...@cornell.edu> wrote: > > That is also one of my favorite places! > > I have seen 4 male Mallards in that small pond consistently this spring (but > not today, and I guess I now know why). > I have no idea what could kill so many birds in such an odd way except a > hunter, or maybe a group of hunters--I would think an owl wouldn't have a > chance at all of them at once, as the others would fly off. > > So sorry to hear this. As we are learning in so many ways these days, people > can be truly cruel. > > Sandy Podulka > > At 10:08 AM 5/31/2020, Gary Kohlenberg wrote: >> Saturday I walked with my daughter down Shindagin Hollow Rd., in the State >> Forest, to the intersection with Gulf Creek Rd. for exercise, fun and to >> show her the area. It was very birdy and beautiful as usual especially the >> beaver pond at the bottom of the hill. This place always reminds me of the >> Adirondacks and is a favorite of mine. >> >> There was a surprising amount of traffic on Shindagin Rd. both cars and >> mountain bikers savoring the nice day. Some out of state plates on cars of >> dozens parked at the intersection and FLT crossing. I was reminded how >> popular this area is and how much we need wild areas during a pandemic. >> >> We were amazed at how many Red Newts were crossing the road. Some didn’t >> make it unharmed, but most of them did. I learned about their life cycle, >> that they are toxic, but contain off the charts cuteness. We tried to help a >> couple on the journey, but they are very independent minded and don’t need >> any intervention. >> >> We noticed a dead bird in the pond by the outflow pipe under the road; a >> dead male Mallard. Kayla thought it quite interesting and checked to find it >> had no head. I thought that was weird, but I have seen it before, and >> guessed maybe an owl had decapitated it. I’m not actually positive owls >> would or could do this, but seem to remember some discussion about this. If >> anyone knows if it can be a thing please enlighten me. >> >> I scanned the pond and saw movement which was another male Mallard >> struggling in the water. His body floated with the head hanging underwater >> unable to lift it up. He may have had a broken neck. I wasn’t able to >> reach the poor guy to end his misery which made me sad. More scanning found >> a third male Mallard floating in the pond dead. I didn’t see any more, but >> there could have been one in the grass. Three seems like a typical total for >> this small water to hold on any particular day. >> >> My hypothesis is that they were all shot on the water with a shotgun. To >> cleanly decapitate a bird the shot would have to be at very close range. The >> other birds could have all been hit with the same shot if they had been >> swimming very together. This water is very small and birds not hit would >> have flown and probably circled around. It’s not likely they would have >> been shot in the air and fallen back into this small area. >> >> This poaching event is very disturbing and we had another event like this in >> the same general area. I’m thinking of the eagle shooting over bait. No >> hunter would shoot birds in a barrel or sitting on the water even in season. >> In my opinion this is just criminal at any time. >> >> We all have bigger social troubles overall, but felt compelled to document >> this as a complete view of birding in the finger lakes. 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