Dear David, here is the explanation http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FFAQ#How_do_I_properly_attribute_a_Creative_Commons_licensed_work.3F also here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode it's easy to find those materials on the site
2010/12/5 David Munir Nabti (منير دافيد نبتي) <[email protected]> > Hi Bassel, and the CC community, > L.L stands for "Lebanese Lira", and in both English and Arabic. On the CC > website it has Non-Commercial images for USD, euro, and Japanese Yen, but > not for any Arab currencies ... see: > http://creativecommons.org/about/downloads/ > > I just made them for Lebanon's currency, and decided to share them with > others (it's easy to make for other Arab countries/currencies, as well, but > I am crunched for time these days and not sleeping much...). If CC is > interested, it would also be cool to have these (and others) available on > the CC site for others to use (we are trying to facilitate/support CC > adoption in the Arab world, and around the world, right? So might be nice to > offer those images for countries other than US/Europe/Japan). I made them > exactly to match the standards that CC used already, so they are ready for > CC or others to use along with those other buttons, if interested. (They > might have to exported as a different size or format to provide the full > range of options on the CC site, which is why I sent the photoshop files, as > well). And heck, I'm not even asking for any attribution. > > As for the licenses, I would appreciate a bit of explanation or discussion > on this issue, at least something beyond claiming that there is a gap in my > understanding. I still think there is a gap in the CC licenses and site, > but I'm curious to learn what other people think. An example: Joi takes > lots of pictures, and releases most (all?) under CC licenses (I really don't > know numbers, but I know he releases a lot under CC). He also sometimes > (often?) doesn't insist on attribution for people to use them (I > specifically asked him that for pictures he took of me, if I could use them > for other things without always attributing him), and he said that was > totally fine. > > That situation is coming up again, now. I don't want to insist on > attribution for other people to use these images that I made, but I do want > people to re-release derived images under a CC license. These are basic > images, but hey... it might encourage some people to save time by using > these for something and releasing CC versus making their own and not using > CC. > > Is there a CC license that addresses that situation? If not, is there a > good reason why not? Does that seem like a valuable option to offer? > > Why does CC offer a license for attribution (not including share-alike), > and not for share-alike (not including attribution)? It seems to me that > each of the elements should be totally independent of each other, since > right now people are restricted to only certain mixes of those > restrictions/options. > - attribution > - share-alike > - commercial/non-commercial > - derivatives/non-derivatives > > > I'm happy to discuss, hear people's thoughts, feedback, etc... is there an > argument/explanation other than a gap in my understanding? Or if there is a > gap in my understanding (*which there very well might be*), and from one > long-time CC activist to a community of CC activists, can someone offer some > clarification in order to fill that gap? Any information, or citations, or > clear explanations or examples (of support, or explaining why I might be > incorrect in the points I outlined) would be greatly appreciated. > > Otherwise, and until I hear otherwise, to me it looks like there is a > serious gap in the CC licenses, and I am happy to contribute time/ideas/etc > to see how we can improve the CC licensing system to cover even more > situations, and be a more compelling option for more people to use. > > Kind regards, > > Munir > > > > .......................................................... > > > > > 2010/12/5 Bassel Safadi <[email protected]> > > Hey David, >> 1- I don't understand what is the L.L? what is the ل.ل? and what do you >> mean that you recrafted CC logos? do you want to use those new logos instead >> of CC logos? >> 2- all CC licenses require attribution, this is not a gap in the CC site, >> it's a gap in your understanding of the licenses >> >> >> 2010/12/5 David Munir Nabti (منير دافيد نبتي) <[email protected]> >> >>> Hey Regional CC Folks! >>> We (at Hibr.me in Lebanon) are working on a big site/outlet redesign >>> effort, and as part of that we have been working on re-crafting our CC >>> logos, efforts, etc. We are going to be launching some other cool CC >>> tools/stuff in the near future. We'll keep you posted on that. >>> >>> In the meanwhile, please find attached a number of the logos/etc we >>> designed, recrafted, etc. They are simple, but hopefully they can be >>> helpful for others. >>> >>> Also, I found a gap on the CC site ... or maybe I'm missing something. >>> Is there a CC license only for Share-Alike? I don't want to require >>> attribution, but I would like to require people who use any of this stuff >>> for whatever purpose to also share them CC. I'm getting increasingly >>> annoyed and radical in my frustrations with "copyright" within civil >>> society, academia, etc... so working on ways to push CC/sharing/etc >>> whenever possible. >>> >>> For now, I fabricated a "CC-SA" license... but if anyone has another >>> suggestion I'd be happy to re-license these another way. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> DMN >>> >>> >>> >>> ~~~ >>> David Munir Nabti (منير دافيد نبتي) || Skype/Twitter: dmnabti || Leb >>> Mobile: +961-3-138-770 || US Mobile: +1-415-355-HIBR (4427) >>> ~~~ >>> • Youth/citizen alternative media in Lebanon (in print, online, in >>> person): www.Hibr.me <http://www.hibr.me/> >>> • Volunteer, and support volunteering, in Lebanon: www.avs.org.lb >>> • Tech, open source, and entrepreneurship for sustainable development: >>> www.therootspace.org >>> • Daily monitoring & translation of news from the Arab World and Iran: >>> www.Mideastwire.com <http://www.mideastwire.com/> >>> ~~~ >>> REMEMBER! Think before you print... And backup often! >>> .......................................................... >>> >>> >>> -- >>> لقد تلقيت هذه الرسالة لأنك مشترك في المجموعة "CC Arab World المشاع >>> الإبداعي" من مجموعات Google. >>> للنشر في هذه المجموعة، أرسل بريدًا إلكترونيًا إلى >>> [email protected] >>> لإلغاء اشتراكك في هذه المجموعة، أرسل رسالة إلكترونية إلى >>> [email protected]<cc-arab-world%[email protected]> >>> . >>> للحصول على مزيد من الخيارات، يمكنك الانتقال إلى هذه المجموعة على العنوان >>> http://groups.google.com/group/cc-arab-world?hl=ar. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Bassel Safadi >> http://bassel.ws >> http://aikilab.org >> Global +1 323-545-3855 >> Singapore +65 93488349 >> >> > -- > لقد تلقيت هذه الرسالة لأنك مشترك في المجموعة "CC Arab World المشاع > الإبداعي" من مجموعات Google. > للنشر في هذه المجموعة، أرسل بريدًا إلكترونيًا إلى > [email protected] > لإلغاء اشتراكك في هذه المجموعة، أرسل رسالة إلكترونية إلى > [email protected]<cc-arab-world%[email protected]> > . > للحصول على مزيد من الخيارات، يمكنك الانتقال إلى هذه المجموعة على العنوان > http://groups.google.com/group/cc-arab-world?hl=ar. > -- Bassel Safadi http://bassel.ws http://aikilab.org Global +1 323-545-3855 Singapore +65 93488349 -- لقد تلقيت هذه الرسالة لأنك مشترك في المجموعة "CC Arab World المشاع الإبداعي" من مجموعات Google. للنشر في هذه المجموعة، أرسل بريدًا إلكترونيًا إلى [email protected] لإلغاء اشتراكك في هذه المجموعة، أرسل رسالة إلكترونية إلى [email protected]. للحصول على مزيد من الخيارات، يمكنك الانتقال إلى هذه المجموعة على العنوان http://groups.google.com/group/cc-arab-world?hl=ar.
