I'm not sure what you think Cisco will do.  Most likely they'll point to the
same document I sent you and say that you are not running with a valid
configuration.  Either your switchports need to be hard coded to 100 full or
you need to modify the workstations back to auto-negotiate.

I know it is a bitter pill, but the switch sounds like it's working as
designed
(Unless the errors aren't indicative of a duplex mismatch, of course).

Michael
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:22 PM, William Affeldt <[email protected]>wrote:

> I am just tired of hearing because on the issue. I am about ready to open a
> TAC case and make them resolve it. Or just say "Works as designed," more
> like not at all.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: michael haynes <[email protected]>
> To: William Affeldt
> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>;
> [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <
> [email protected]>; [email protected] <
> [email protected]>; [email protected] <
> [email protected]>
>  Sent: Thu May 14 12:14:04 2009
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Switch and pc auto neg.
>
> I wouldn't trust any scenario that has auto on one side and a hard set
> speed/duplex on the other.  Cisco's never seemed to put a lot of faith
> behind their auto-negotiation.  I know they used to recommend hard setting
> ports to begin with, and the 6500s I used to work with never could
> auto-negotiate properly with SUN servers;)
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM, William Affeldt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>        It could also be that on the 3750 the port is showing 100 full but
> is actually half duplex. The switch seems to be very buggy.
>
>
>
>
>        ----- Original Message -----
>        From: michael haynes <[email protected]>
>        To: William Affeldt
>        Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>;
> [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <
> [email protected]>; [email protected] <
> [email protected]>; [email protected] <
> [email protected]>
>        Sent: Thu May 14 12:01:55 2009
>        Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Switch and pc auto neg.
>
>        The reason is that auto mode uses fast link pulses in order to
> negotiate speed and duplex settings.  If the client is hard coded to 100
> full, there are no fast link pulses going between the client and switch.
>  The switch decides that nothing else will do in our technologically
> advanced world besides 'half duplex' - leading to duplex mismatch problems
> beween the workstation and the switch.
>
>
>        Michael
>
>
>
>        On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM, William Affeldt <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>               Does anyone know the exact reason why if a switchport is set
> to auto and a pc is hard set to anything it negotiates but gets errors?
>
>               ----- Original Message -----
>               From: Jared Scrivener <[email protected]>
>               To: William Affeldt; [email protected] <
> [email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
>               Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>;
> [email protected] <[email protected]>
>               Sent: Wed May 13 21:26:04 2009
>               Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Section 1 lab 18.6
>
>               They are synonyms in a sense. CAR is a policing method, but
> one of many.
>
>               Cheers,
>
>               Jared Scrivener CCIE3 #16983 (R&S, Security, SP), CISSP
>               Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>
>               URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
> http://www.ipexpert.com/>  <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>
>               Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>               Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>               Mailto: [email protected]
>
>
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of William Affeldt
>               Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 10:31 PM
>               To: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'
>               Cc: '[email protected]'; '
> [email protected]'
>               Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Section 1 lab 18.6
>
>               Can some one explain when to use policing and when to use
> CAR. The question said policing and the proctor guide used CAR.
>
>               ----- Original Message -----
>               From: [email protected] <
> [email protected]>
>               To: Robert S Wyzykowski <[email protected]>
>               Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>;
> [email protected] <[email protected]>
>               Sent: Wed May 13 18:17:25 2009
>               Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] MRM Volume 3 Lab 7 Section 5.3
>
>               Robert,
>
>               R4 does not need to join. Can you post your config?
>               If I get packet loss, I usually join the group manually and
> test using pings, debugging along the way.
>
>               Bryan Bartik
>               CCIE #23707 (R&S), CCNP
>               Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
>
>               URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
> http://www.ipexpert.com/>  <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>
>
>
>               On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Robert S Wyzykowski <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>                      I can't seem to get a successful test, and I don't
> know how to troubleshoot why.  Getting 100% packet loss.
>                      The MRM configuration is pretty straight forward.
>  Does R4 need to join the group 230.230.230.230 for this to have a
> successful test?  I do a mtrace from R2 for 230.230.230.230 and there's
> nothing there.
>
>                      I watched the video solution, I have everything in
> place as instructed, but no love.
>
>                      Please help.
>                      Cheers!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                      Robert Wyzykowski
>                      Manager, Global Telecommunications
>                      IMERYS
>                      30 Mansell Court East - Suite 220
>                      Roswell, GA, USA
>                      Phone: +1 770 645 3734
>                      Mobile: +1 404-434 9000
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                      From:   Dale Shaw 
> <[email protected]<dale.shaw%[email protected]><mailto:
> dale.shaw%[email protected] <dale.shaw%[email protected]>>  <mailto:
> dale.shaw%[email protected] <dale.shaw%[email protected]> <mailto:
> dale.shaw%[email protected] <dale.shaw%[email protected]>> >
>  <mailto:dale.shaw%[email protected] <dale.shaw%[email protected]><mailto:
> dale.shaw%[email protected] <dale.shaw%[email protected]>>
>  <mailto:dale.shaw%[email protected] 
> <dale.shaw%[email protected]><mailto:
> dale.shaw%[email protected] <dale.shaw%[email protected]>> > >
> >
>
>                      To:     Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
>                      Cc:     [email protected]
>                      Date:   05/13/2009 07:00 PM
>                      Subject:        Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] test
>
>               ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>                      On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Joe Astorino <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>                      > Hello? : )
>                      >
>                      > Regards,
>                      >
>                      > Joe Astorino
>                      > CCIE #24347 (R&S),CCDP,CCNP,CCDA,CCNA
>                      > Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
>
>                      > URL: http://www.IPexpert.com<http://www.ipexpert.com/><
> http://www.ipexpert.com/>  <http://www.ipexpert.com/>  <
> http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>
>
>                      Ha! Great result :-)
>
>                      cheers,
>                      Dale
>
>
>
>
>
>
>               --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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