Hi Adam,

You are very right.  In the scenario I last mentioned, I was using EIGRP as
the protocol :)

Regards,
Samir.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Adam Booth <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Samir,
>
> Well a distribute-list is one way to do it if you want to have selective
> control, otherwise if the CE-PE and backdoor protocol is OSPF and you want
> to save the backdoor link for protection only, I would suggest you just set
> the interfaces on the backdoor link to have a higher ospf cost than the
> accumulated cost across the provider network.
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Samir Idris <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Adam Adam!
>>
>> Thanks alot for the explanation.  Really appreciated.
>>
>> I did put in a backdoor link when lab'ing it up.  Certainly route over
>> backdoor was preferred due to the cost to I manipualted it.
>>
>> I lab'ed up similar stuff but with EIGRP as a CE-PE protocol.  Here I
>> tried soo and it worked fine.  In all the examples I saw on the web I didn't
>> see any metric manipulation being done and so the backdoor link was being
>> preferred.  I used distribute list at the CEs connected via backdoor to make
>> the path preferred over MPLS network.  Is it the right way?
>>
>> Thanks again.  Regards,
>> Samir Idris.
>>
>>   On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Adam Booth <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Samir,
>>>
>>> If the OSPF process id is the same at either end of the provider network,
>>> there is an implied domain-id set by IOS but if you are using different
>>> process ids to get alignment you need both sides to have a common domain-id
>>> only if you want routes to appear as inter-area rather than external
>>> routes.  If domain-ids are in alignment then routes over the provider
>>> network will appear as inter-area (type 3) otherwise routes will appear as
>>> external (type 5)
>>>
>>> To have routes appearing as intra-area via the provider network shamlinks
>>> are required, as they are similar to a virtual-link but can extend any OSPF
>>> area, not just area 0  over the provider's network (type 1) - as you have
>>> found, the domain-id doesn't matter here.
>>>
>>> The value of a sham-link is meant to be if you have a backdoor link (not
>>> using the provider network) that is in the same area, you aren't going to
>>> get into problems where intra-area routes are always preferred over
>>> inter-area routes (should the backdoor link be in the same OSPF area)
>>> however I think for the backdoor link you're probably going to have to
>>> manipulate the link costs to be less preferred than the MPLS network anyway,
>>> so you may as well give the backdoor link a different OSPF area - which I
>>> think kind of negates the need for a sham-link in the first place :)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Samir Idris <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hey Hey,
>>>>
>>>> I have lab'ed up a scenario where EIGRP is running as an IGP in the MPLS
>>>> core.  I am using OSPF as an IGP between PE-CE at both the sites.
>>>>
>>>> 1)- If I create a sham-link with NO domain-id, the routes appear to be
>>>> intra-area.  It makes sense as sham-link is like a virtual-link over
>>>> MPLS.
>>>> Please correct me if wrong.
>>>>
>>>> 2)- If I add domain-id and different ones still the routes appear to be
>>>> intra-area.  Is it because domain-id doesn't take effect or what?
>>>>  Confused
>>>> at this point
>>>>
>>>> 3)- If I remove the sham-link and simply use same domain-id at both PEs
>>>> I
>>>> get inter-area routes.  This one makes sense as the BGP community
>>>> carries
>>>> the domain-id along with it.  The PE looks as it and knows how to
>>>> manipulate
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> I am confused at point 2.  Can anyone explain please?  Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Samir Idris.
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>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>
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