I've just been looking through the Volume I NAC scenario and for L2-802.1X
and it creates three validation policies for posture assessment of the XP
machine.

The first one checks for the correct version of Trust agent which is a
Cisco:PA value. So the posture token assigned is Cisco:PA:Healthy else its
Cisco:PA:Quarantine

The second one checks for service pack (Cisco:Host value), and if that
passes its assigned Cisco:Host:Healthy, else its assigned
Cisco:Host:Quarantine

Third is for the OS which is similar to the first.

Although the solution doesn't say why, it makes a point of saying
specifically which one you should be selecting for the token (Cisco:PA or
Cisco:Host). The only conclusion that I can draw from this and the NAC VolI
book is that if you only assess Cisco:Host values then you need to assign a
Cisco:Host token. Whereas if you evaluate both Cisco:Host and Cisco:PA
values then it doesn't matter which one you select.



On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Brandon Carroll <[email protected]>wrote:

> Right in an "and" condition they all need to match to assign the token. I
> can't think of a reason off the top of my head for choosing one over the
> other so I'd have to lab it up.
>
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> On Apr 10, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Paul Alexander <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think were talking about something different.
>
> You mention that the difference is in the values you match on. That's when
> you create the actual conditions (PA:OS, Host:Hotfixes, Host:Kernel etc).
>
> After that you assign a posture token to the condition set.....the option
> is Cisco:Host or Cisco:PA (healthy, quarantine etc etc)
>
> If you create an AND logic condition that includes Cisco:PA and Cisco:Host
> match statement - they all still need to match before it can assign a token
> right? So when choosing the type of token to assign, why would you assign a
> Cisco:Host token over a Cisco:PA token?
>
> Sorry for battering this to death, but I'm not quite getting it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Brandon Carroll < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The difference is in the values you are matching on.
>>
>>
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>>
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>> On Apr 10, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Paul Alexander < <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Okay, I think I get some of that. Here's the example i'm confused by:
>>
>> *Condition 1*
>> Cisco:PA:OS-Type contains Windows 2000
>> AND
>> Cisco:Host:Hotfixes=KB14478
>>
>> Posture Token= Cisco:Host:Healthy
>>
>> *Condition 2*
>> Default
>>
>> Posture Token Cisco:Host:Quarantine
>>
>>
>>
>> Now in this case, what is the difference in me using Cisco:Host instead of
>> Cisco:PA for the posture tokens (healthy and quarantine)??
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all your help mate, its appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Paul.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Brandon Carroll 
>> <<[email protected]><[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I understand.  It can be frustrating.
>>>
>>> So basically yes you need the CTA to get the posture information back to
>>> ACS.  Take a read of this:  
>>> <http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/cta/admin_guide/ctaPlugn.html#wp1043483><http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/cta/admin_guide/ctaPlugn.html#wp1043483>
>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/cta/admin_guide/ctaPlugn.html#wp1043483
>>>  and if it's still giving you a hard time let me know.
>>>
>>> Basically you have application posture tokens that can be different.  so-
>>> Cisco:Host values can posture to healthy and Cisco:PA can posture to
>>> Quarantine.  Then of the two different application posture tokens ACS takes
>>> the lowest value, in this case Quarantine and assigns that as the System
>>> Posture Token.  Here is another way to look at it.
>>>
>>> Lets say you want to see the following:
>>>
>>> Cisco:Host:HotFixes=KB65643
>>> and that equals Healthy else assign Quarantine as the Application Posture
>>> Token.
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> Cisco:PA:OS-Type=Windows XP Professional
>>> and that equals Healthy lse assign Quarantine as the Application Posture
>>> Token.
>>>
>>> If both items are true the System Posture Token would be Healthy.
>>>
>>> If only 1 is true the other will assign the Application Posture Token of
>>> Quarantine and ACS looks at both, picks the lowest and assigns the System
>>> Posture Token to Quarantine.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
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>>> On Apr 10, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Paul Alexander wrote:
>>>
>>> ssign a token of 'Cisco:PA Healthy' as opposed to 'Cisc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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