That seems to me like Cisco can careless about their customer support. We are their customers. We spend lots of money to get certified, so the least they can do is providing us with feedback. If there are multiple ways to implement a solution, then how do we know which way to implement if we don't get feedback. I think as long as we satify all of the requirments in the question, then we should be awarded for the points regardless of how we implement the solution. Come on... do they expect us to read their minds? JD
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:57:39 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAbCC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Devildoc, I do feel your frustration. I finished my last attempt in a little over 5 hours and spent the next 3 hours verifying my work. I walked out of the exam feeling like I nailed it. However, based on my score report, it reflected a score of about 74-76 points. There were 3 sections where the score came out and I was left scratching my head thinking "how can this be?" - Talk about deflating. I had plenty of time to verify everthing and I felt very good about my chances. And to this day I still have no idea how I could have missed points on those sections. To me, there are 2 things we can do: 1. study harder 2. after each failed attempt, continue to stress to cisco (via the critique in your score report) that a re-score option needs to be established for the exam. If I'm spending $2,000 (exam + travel) for each attempt, the least they can do is reassure us that they are doing everything possible to ensure that there are no errors in the grading. BTW, a proctor told me that voice is the most challenging to grade since there is more than one way to achieve the desired results On 4/5/08, Jonathan Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I ran into the same problem with the R&S lab... there might be 3 or 4ways to do something, but only one of them gets you points... not sureif this is the same thing on the CCIE Voice lab... but I would bet itis.No idea on how they grade the test.But I think a lot has to do with how you use the proctor... so, ifthere are 2 ways to do something, that means to go to the proctor andsay, 'hey, I have way A and way B... which one is preferred?'Now, I would bet that one of those ways doesn't meet therequirements... which is why this test is as difficult as it is...because you are going to have to know why 'way B' doesn't work...which means a deep understanding of not just how to configuresomething, but in the way it works at a protocol level.For example... let's say I wanted you to set up CAC for a specificlocation. Now, no big, right, just set up locations-based CAC... oruse the GK... both work... both will provide CAC... but let's say Iadded to that, 'make sure that you can adjust bandwidth on the fly...'now, we know locations-based CAC can't do that, we are looking forBRQs and we have to use a GK and enable BRQs in CCM.The example is probably a bad one, but it is the only one I can think of.I do have a question tho... I have heard from people that the CCMs areslow and nearly unresponsive... so, it can take 2 or 3 minutes for apage to load. Is this true? Whee did you take it?Also, Mark Snow has an example script on the DVDs, that looks like itwould take a few hrs to configure on the lab... even if you knewscripting... the requirements seem straightforward, but then he addsextra steps to the script... that seem to be from IPCC Scripting BestPractices... and all for probably only 4 points on the test... itseems like it would be almost impossible to get any points from thatscenario...JonathanOn Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Devildoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Hello All,>> I just had my first attempt at the Voice CCIE lab last week, and of course,> i failed. I knew right away after the lab that i failed. The reason why I> failed was not due to the lack of or inadequate amount of knowledge that I> possessed but rather the lack of time. I was so nervous and stressed out> that I tumbled clumsily throughout the day.>> In my opinion, the lab was not tricky or even difficult. I actually think> that i over-studied for the lab. The Proctor Workbook and the Bootcamp well> prepared me for the lab, so there was no problem with the knowledge there.> Having said that, i was dumbfounded when i got my scores result.>> And here are my questions. Does anyone know how Cisco grade these labs?> Is Cisco looking for a specific way to implement a solution or any method to> implement a solution would work as long as it satifies all of the> requirements asked of you in the questions?>> The reason why i am asking these questions is because even though i did not> complete the lab, I did complete some sections. I tested those completed> sections and verified that all requirements were met, and still i received> 0% for those completed sections. Shouldn't I have received some points for> those sections? I know that each question is worth ALL or NO point for the> correct answer. However, there are many questions in a section, and if I> completed a section with all requirements met, then i would think that at> least i would get 1 or 2 questions right if not all. But i see no point> awarded at all for the completed sections, so that means that i must not> have gotten all questions in the section right to get 0%. But how can that> be since I tested it and verified that all requirements were met and that> the solutions that i implemented were working. This only means that my> implemented methods were not what Cisco was looking for.>> Does anyone have the similar experience or is it just me?>> JD>>>> ________________________________> Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies.> Learn how. -- "There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't" _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. 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