But who does the re-evaluating of the score? The same proctor or a different
proctor?
JD> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:05:21 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL
PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb>
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]> > Yeah, as I thought:> >
"Reevaluation of Results> > If you are concerned your results are in error, you
may request a> "reread" until 14 days after your lab date via an email to>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Each reread costs $250.00 USD and consists of a> proctor
loading your configurations into a rack to recreate the test> and re-score the
entire exam. This process may take up to three weeks> after receipt of
payment"> > > > Jonathan> > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Jonathan Charles
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > There is a rescore option... isn't there? There
was for the R&S...> >> >> > Jonathan> >> >> >> > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:57
PM, Scott Monasmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Devildoc, I do feel your
frustration. I finished my last attempt in a little> > > over 5 hours and spent
the next 3 hours verifying my work. I walked out of> > > the exam feeling like
I nailed it. However, based on my score report, it> > > reflected a score of
about 74-76 points. There were 3 sections where the> > > score came out and I
was left scratching my head thinking "how can this be?"> > > - Talk about
deflating. I had plenty of time to verify everthing and I felt> > > very good
about my chances. And to this day I still have no idea how I could> > > have
missed points on those sections.> > >> > > To me, there are 2 things we can
do:> > > 1. study harder> > > 2. after each failed attempt, continue to stress
to cisco (via the critique> > > in your score report) that a re-score option
needs to be established for the> > > exam.> > >> > > If I'm spending $2,000
(exam + travel) for each attempt, the least they can> > > do is reassure us
that they are doing everything possible to ensure that> > > there are no errors
in the grading.> > >> > > BTW, a proctor told me that voice is the most
challenging to grade since> > > there is more than one way to achieve the
desired results> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 4/5/08, Jonathan Charles <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > > I ran into the same problem with the R&S lab... there
might be 3 or 4> > > > ways to do something, but only one of them gets you
points... not sure> > > > if this is the same thing on the CCIE Voice lab...
but I would bet it> > > > is.> > > >> > > > No idea on how they grade the
test.> > > >> > > > But I think a lot has to do with how you use the proctor...
so, if> > > > there are 2 ways to do something, that means to go to the proctor
and> > > > say, 'hey, I have way A and way B... which one is preferred?'> > >
>> > > > Now, I would bet that one of those ways doesn't meet the> > > >
requirements... which is why this test is as difficult as it is...> > > >
because you are going to have to know why 'way B' doesn't work...> > > > which
means a deep understanding of not just how to configure> > > > something, but
in the way it works at a protocol level.> > > >> > > > For example... let's say
I wanted you to set up CAC for a specific> > > > location. Now, no big, right,
just set up locations-based CAC... or> > > > use the GK... both work... both
will provide CAC... but let's say I> > > > added to that, 'make sure that you
can adjust bandwidth on the fly...'> > > > now, we know locations-based CAC
can't do that, we are looking for> > > > BRQs and we have to use a GK and
enable BRQs in CCM.> > > >> > > > The example is probably a bad one, but it is
the only one I can think of.> > > >> > > > I do have a question tho... I have
heard from people that the CCMs are> > > > slow and nearly unresponsive... so,
it can take 2 or 3 minutes for a> > > > page to load. Is this true? Whee did
you take it?> > > >> > > > Also, Mark Snow has an example script on the DVDs,
that looks like it> > > > would take a few hrs to configure on the lab... even
if you knew> > > > scripting... the requirements seem straightforward, but then
he adds> > > > extra steps to the script... that seem to be from IPCC Scripting
Best> > > > Practices... and all for probably only 4 points on the test... it>
> > > seems like it would be almost impossible to get any points from that> > >
> scenario...> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Jonathan> > > >> > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Devildoc <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hello All,> > > > >> > > > > I just had my
first attempt at the Voice CCIE lab last week, and of> > > course,> > > > > i
failed. I knew right away after the lab that i failed. The reason> > > why I> >
> > > failed was not due to the lack of or inadequate amount of knowledge that>
> > I> > > > > possessed but rather the lack of time. I was so nervous and
stressed out> > > > > that I tumbled clumsily throughout the day.> > > > >> > >
> > In my opinion, the lab was not tricky or even difficult. I actually> > >
think> > > > > that i over-studied for the lab. The Proctor Workbook and the
Bootcamp> > > well> > > > > prepared me for the lab, so there was no problem
with the knowledge> > > there.> > > > > Having said that, i was dumbfounded
when i got my scores result.> > > > >> > > > > And here are my questions. Does
anyone know how Cisco grade these> > > labs?> > > > > Is Cisco looking for a
specific way to implement a solution or any> > > method to> > > > > implement a
solution would work as long as it satifies all of the> > > > > requirements
asked of you in the questions?> > > > >> > > > > The reason why i am asking
these questions is because even though i did> > > not> > > > > complete the
lab, I did complete some sections. I tested those> > > completed> > > > >
sections and verified that all requirements were met, and still i> > >
received> > > > > 0% for those completed sections. Shouldn't I have received
some points> > > for> > > > > those sections? I know that each question is
worth ALL or NO point for> > > the> > > > > correct answer. However, there are
many questions in a section, and if> > > I> > > > > completed a section with
all requirements met, then i would think that> > > at> > > > > least i would
get 1 or 2 questions right if not all. But i see no point> > > > > awarded at
all for the completed sections, so that means that i must not> > > > > have
gotten all questions in the section right to get 0%. But how can> > > that> > >
> > be since I tested it and verified that all requirements were met and> > >
that> > > > > the solutions that i implemented were working. This only means
that my> > > > > implemented methods were not what Cisco was looking for.> > >
> >> > > > > Does anyone have the similar experience or is it just me?> > > >
>> > > > > JD> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >
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