[Paraphrasing] I'd rate it a [removed by NDA] on a 10 scale. :)
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Aamir Panjwani < aamir.panjw...@ivision.com.au> wrote: > Kevin, > > What would you rate the overall difficulty level of the exam and in > particular the "dial plan" section, on the scale of 1 to 10, where 10 > being extremely difficult? > > Thanks > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Damisch [mailto:kevin.dami...@vitalsite.com] > Sent: Thursday, 6 August 2009 11:23 AM > To: Aamir Panjwani; Jonathan Charles > Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 > > OK, just throwing my 2 cents in on the v3 lab. I haven't got my score > yet, but I know I didn't make it. It was my first attempt and realized > how crucial time management and having a well-planned strategy is. It > is heartbreaking to have many sections working but you need just one > more bullet working to get points for that section and you end up with 0 > on that part. I tried to abide by the rule of not spending more than 15 > minutes troubleshooting something and I think that is what got me. It > seemed like I was hopping around from one thing to another and the end > of the day came too quickly. There were parts that were no brainers and > other parts where I changed one thing that broke other stuff I had > previously configured. On a positive note, I definitely know my > strengths and weaknesses now! :) > > And, as it has been made very clear in this thread, do not ask for > specifics. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com > [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Aamir > Panjwani > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:13 PM > To: Jonathan Charles > Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 > > ahh I see thanks for clarification! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonv...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2009 2:12 PM > To: Aamir Panjwani > Cc: Brian Valentine; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 > > Please do not assume you will get the same feedback... I got this > because I had a potential hardware fault and it turned out I caused > the problem. > > > Jonathan > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Aamir > Panjwani<aamir.panjw...@ivision.com.au> wrote: > > Jonathan, the most interesting bit of this entire thread is that Ben > Ng sent you an email with explanation of why you failed!! CCIE exam is > notorious for not telling you exactly where you lost points. So this > must be a massive help for you. By the way is that some kind of a new > process that every candidate will get detailed report of reasons for > failure or are you some sort of a VIP customer for them :) > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com > [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan > Charles > > Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2009 6:40 AM > > To: Brian Valentine > > Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 > > > > I know, in way too much detail, why I failed... I got an email from > > Ben Ng explaining it. > > > > > > Jonathan > > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Brian > Valentine<bkvalent...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't know what we expect Jonathan to tell us. What we really want > to ask > >> is something we don't really want to know and something he really > can't tell > >> us anyway because of NDA. > >> > >> Jonathan, bummer that you failed. It sounds like you know why you > failed -- > >> which is a very good thing. Better luck on your next attempt. > >> > >> I will add this. I took the R&S exam last year and passed on my > first > >> attempt. I also thought the exam was a fair test of knowledge and > skill. > >> If you are well prepared in terms of understanding the technology > deeply, > >> have a plan of how to attack your lab, and follow your plan, you > certainly > >> CAN get 80 points in 8 hours. Now, I realize it is a different exam, > but I > >> would expect the voice exam to be similar in that it will be > achievable. > >> Cisco doesn't want to know primarily that you can do stupid tricks > with > >> routers and phones. Now I haven't sat the voice lab exam yet, but I > would > >> be extremely surprised and disappointed if there were 30 points of > stupid > >> phone tricks. Cisco wants to know that you understand the technology > deeply > >> enough that you can configure to a set of complex requirements. > Bottom line > >> -- they want to know that you are an expert. To an expert the exam > should > >> seem "easy". Of course, you could always have a tricky question or > two, > >> but remember that you don't need 100% to pass. > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com > >> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Kevin > Damisch > >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:17 PM > >> To: Jonathan Charles; Tanner Ezell > >> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 > >> > >> Thanks for that last bit of info. I will be sure to work on the > [deleted by > >> NDA] topics. Those are my weak areas. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Kevin > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com > >> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan > >> Charles > >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:05 PM > >> To: Tanner Ezell > >> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 > >> > >> Well, the [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] than I expected, but > >> [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] and [deleted by NDA] was also > >> [deleted by NDA] > >> > >> > >> Jonathan > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Tanner > Ezell<tanner.ez...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, > but > >> you > >>> cannot tell us > >>> So all in all, <blank, details removed> > >>> :) > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles > <jonv...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from > Ben > >>>> Ng telling me why...) > >>>> > >>>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and > >>>> remarkably fair... > >>>> > >>>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary > reason I > >>>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even > what > >>>> was broken...). > >>>> > >>>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you > what > >>>> I expected it to be...) > >>>> > >>>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP > >>>> > >>>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Jonathan > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please > >>>> visit www.ipexpert.com > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please > >> visit www.ipexpert.com > >> > >> This communication (including any attachments) is intended only for > the use > >> of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain > >> information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from > disclosure > >> under applicable law. 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