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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Cory Gray <[email protected]> wrote:
> Some Questions I just got
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> 1.       Any tips on using configurations in notepad or direct typing into
> router without using tab.
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>
> I create 4 notepads for every exam
>
> Info.txt – Any information such as IPs, VLAN numbers, login information etc
> for each site.
>
> SiteA.txt – Dialplan for Site A
>
> SiteB.txt – Dialplan for Site B
>
> SiteC.txt – Dialplan for Site C
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> If a site is H323 I do the entire dialplan in the text file and then copy
> and paste it to the router.  I can then just edit my notepad as needed.  If
> I have 2 H323 sites, I copy one dial plan configuration to the other and
> change what I need to change.
>
> I always use notepad for my SCCP media resources configuration.  I grab the
> template from the documentation website, edit it, apply it to a site, change
> what needs to be changes for next site, apply it, and do it for the third.
> This is my first lab that I registered Conference, Transcoder, and MTP all
> at the same time before I even had gateways configured.  This is just in
> case I needed one and did not realize it and I could do it fairly quickly
> and never have to worry about it for the rest of the day.  You SHOULD not
> loose point for extra configuration as long as it does not affect something
> else (be careful!).  I do a lot of things in every lab that I have never
> used before so I can get into a routine that was bullet proof against ANY
> future scenario.  For me, it is a waste of time to read through the lab.  I
> have templates but I never read ahead I just always prepare for the unknown.
> I even configure things in CUCM out of habit that I never used because they
> are not on my lab.  I just would not apply them.
>
> Does routing dial plan table is right strategy for lab.
>
> This is a VERY personal question on how to do it but I do not believe you
> cannot get through the dial plan quick enough without notes.  In one of my
> earlier attempts when I was not ready, it took me 2 hours!  I did not take
> notes!  This is what I do.
>
> Pretend these are your requirements for a fictional US dialplan
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> 9 outside code
>
> Plan and type whatever
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> Emergency – 911 with 4 digit caller id
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> Local – 7 digits with 7 digit caller id
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> LD – 11 digits with 10 digit caller id
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> International – any digits with + caller id
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>
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> This is what my text file would look like
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>
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> EMER Calling - 4
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> EMER Called – 911 unk unk
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> LOCAL calling – 7
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> LOCAL called – 9.7 sub isdn
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> LD Calling – 10
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> LD Called – 9.1+10
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> INTL calling – E164
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> INTL called - T
>
> What was the monitor size in RTP.?
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>
>
> Not sure.  Big enough that you can see your GUI pages FULL SCREEN and still
> see your notepad right beside it
>
> Can you share how useful OWLE books and Troubleshooting class might help me
> in preperation of my voice lab.
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>
>
> I do not think the lab is passable without OWLE books.  People passed
> without TSHOOT class but I would not have.
>
>
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cory Gray
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Passed!!!!!
>
>
>
> All,
>
>
>
> I finally passed my CCIE Voice in RTP yesterday.  I have an R&S so I am
> still #22842.  My two cents are below.  Take them or leave them.  Please
> limit direct questions and post them to the alias so everyone can benefit.
> Please do not ask me anything that would be in violation of the
> Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA).  I am a Cisco Employee so that increases
> your chances of being reported J
>
>
>
> Observations
>
> It is not obvious which task depend on each so you have to think about how a
> lot of task may affect others.  The Voice lab is very “wordy.”  IPexpert’s
> practice labs are very clear and concise in their requirements.  It is very
> easy to get lost in the words due to time pressure and how we read.  My
> guess is if English is your first language you will skip words and if
> English is not, it will be harder to interpret than it is for native
> speakers.  That is just a case.  Yesterday, I read a task that said “should”
> and I thought it said “should not.”  If it was not for a later task that
> conflicted with “should not,”  I would have never noticed and would have
> lost the points (assuming I still did not lose the pointsJ ).
>
>
>
> So this lab I focused on attention to detail.  I read slower and took more
> time so I was only finished with about 1hour and 15 minutes left.  Some
> requirements may not be clear to you so making an assumption is the worst
> thing you can do.  Seek clarity from the proctor.  We all know it is hard to
> ask the question in the right way so they can answer but it is better than
> assuming.  My strategy was to mark down the questions I have and then bring
> the proctor over to my desk and ask him every question in one sitting to
> save time.  That worked.  We had our debates about “clarifying” questions
> but this saved me a huge amount of time doing all of my questions at the
> same time.  One of my questions was even answered further in the lab based
> on what another task asked.
>
>
>
> For the rest of the time I went back through my lab.  The only thing I do
> not verify first time through is the dial plan.  This is my first time
> making it to the end without leaving any points on the table so I had enough
> time to verify my dial plan.  I figured there is no way every test call
> could work 100% without me testing anything but 911.  I was right.  I fixed
> a lot of silly mistakes.
>
>
>
> IPexpert Training Notes
>
> You need the 5-lab handbook and the 4 labs you get from the One Week Lab
> Experience.  I have 3 more labs from the previous round of OWLE and those
> helped as well.  I hope IPexpert finds a way to include those questions that
> require you to think outside the box or features that no one uses in the
> real world in their materials.  The proctor told us during one lab there are
> several tracks per CCIE Lab.  There is a 30% change between each lab in the
> same track.  So let’s say there are 4 voice tracks and 4 labs per track
> (just using round numbers).  Even if you get Track 3 Lab 1 and then get
> Track 3 Lab2, you can still easily fail.  That can be a big 30%.  The point
> is every practice question is important so the more questions you have the
> better.
>
>
>
> I have had scenarios that I could not get working during past labs but there
> was never one scenario where I said, “I have no idea how to do this.”
> IPexpert will give you all of the technical skills to pass but unfortunately
> that may not enough.  With all of the words and all of the assumptions they
> expect you to make, there is no good way I can think of to prepare for that.
> Especially with integrated troubleshooting.  You may think of things they do
> that make sure phones not get DHCP but there are things that will not break
> your configuration that you still have to spot and fix.  After taking the
> lab many times, you start to understand what are some of these things to
> look for and you making check those things part of your routine.
>
>
>
> The new Troubleshooting course is essential.  Seeing the debugs in the
> IPexpert practice labs is nowhere as good as having Vik walk you through it.
> I can now easily read h323, SIP, and mgcp traces thanks to that class.
>
>
>
> Other Notes
>
> I heard in the past people could skip sections like CUCCX, QoS, and/or
> Troubleshooting and still pass.  I do not believe that is possible anymore
> if it ever was in the past.  Assume the worst that every questions is worth
> 5 points.  That means you can only miss 4 questions.  There is always stuff
> that you think you configured right that you really did not so you cannot
> leave ANY points on the table.  You have to leave thinking you got 90+
> points to have a chance in passing.
>
>
>
> I am done ranting.
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>
>
> Let me (and the list) know if you have any questions,
>
>
>
> Cory
>
>
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