Just adding something else. Before the lab try to do all requirements for
H323, CUCME, qos from your head for time drills test. If you need to check
something do it with the admin guides only.

Congrats Cory. Now what's next CCDE?
On Jan 24, 2013 7:03 PM, "Sam Park" <upperlevelpark...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Congratulations!  You deserve it!  Always appreciate your input
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Cory Gray <corygray22...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Some Questions I just got
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.       Any tips on using configurations in notepad or direct typing
> into
> > router without using tab.
> >
> >
> >
> > I create 4 notepads for every exam
> >
> > Info.txt – Any information such as IPs, VLAN numbers, login information
> etc
> > for each site.
> >
> > SiteA.txt – Dialplan for Site A
> >
> > SiteB.txt – Dialplan for Site B
> >
> > SiteC.txt – Dialplan for Site C
> >
> > If a site is H323 I do the entire dialplan in the text file and then copy
> > and paste it to the router.  I can then just edit my notepad as needed.
>  If
> > I have 2 H323 sites, I copy one dial plan configuration to the other and
> > change what I need to change.
> >
> > I always use notepad for my SCCP media resources configuration.  I grab
> the
> > template from the documentation website, edit it, apply it to a site,
> change
> > what needs to be changes for next site, apply it, and do it for the
> third.
> > This is my first lab that I registered Conference, Transcoder, and MTP
> all
> > at the same time before I even had gateways configured.  This is just in
> > case I needed one and did not realize it and I could do it fairly quickly
> > and never have to worry about it for the rest of the day.  You SHOULD not
> > loose point for extra configuration as long as it does not affect
> something
> > else (be careful!).  I do a lot of things in every lab that I have never
> > used before so I can get into a routine that was bullet proof against ANY
> > future scenario.  For me, it is a waste of time to read through the lab.
>  I
> > have templates but I never read ahead I just always prepare for the
> unknown.
> > I even configure things in CUCM out of habit that I never used because
> they
> > are not on my lab.  I just would not apply them.
> >
> > Does routing dial plan table is right strategy for lab.
> >
> > This is a VERY personal question on how to do it but I do not believe you
> > cannot get through the dial plan quick enough without notes.  In one of
> my
> > earlier attempts when I was not ready, it took me 2 hours!  I did not
> take
> > notes!  This is what I do.
> >
> > Pretend these are your requirements for a fictional US dialplan
> >
> > 9 outside code
> >
> > Plan and type whatever
> >
> > Emergency – 911 with 4 digit caller id
> >
> > Local – 7 digits with 7 digit caller id
> >
> > LD – 11 digits with 10 digit caller id
> >
> > International – any digits with + caller id
> >
> >
> >
> > This is what my text file would look like
> >
> >
> >
> > EMER Calling - 4
> >
> > EMER Called – 911 unk unk
> >
> >
> >
> > LOCAL calling – 7
> >
> > LOCAL called – 9.7 sub isdn
> >
> >
> >
> > LD Calling – 10
> >
> > LD Called – 9.1+10
> >
> >
> >
> > INTL calling – E164
> >
> > INTL called - T
> >
> > What was the monitor size in RTP.?
> >
> >
> >
> > Not sure.  Big enough that you can see your GUI pages FULL SCREEN and
> still
> > see your notepad right beside it
> >
> > Can you share how useful OWLE books and Troubleshooting class might help
> me
> > in preperation of my voice lab.
> >
> >
> >
> > I do not think the lab is passable without OWLE books.  People passed
> > without TSHOOT class but I would not have.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
> > [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Cory Gray
> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:35 PM
> > To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Passed!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> >
> >
> > I finally passed my CCIE Voice in RTP yesterday.  I have an R&S so I am
> > still #22842.  My two cents are below.  Take them or leave them.  Please
> > limit direct questions and post them to the alias so everyone can
> benefit.
> > Please do not ask me anything that would be in violation of the
> > Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA).  I am a Cisco Employee so that increases
> > your chances of being reported J
> >
> >
> >
> > Observations
> >
> > It is not obvious which task depend on each so you have to think about
> how a
> > lot of task may affect others.  The Voice lab is very “wordy.”
>  IPexpert’s
> > practice labs are very clear and concise in their requirements.  It is
> very
> > easy to get lost in the words due to time pressure and how we read.  My
> > guess is if English is your first language you will skip words and if
> > English is not, it will be harder to interpret than it is for native
> > speakers.  That is just a case.  Yesterday, I read a task that said
> “should”
> > and I thought it said “should not.”  If it was not for a later task that
> > conflicted with “should not,”  I would have never noticed and would have
> > lost the points (assuming I still did not lose the pointsJ ).
> >
> >
> >
> > So this lab I focused on attention to detail.  I read slower and took
> more
> > time so I was only finished with about 1hour and 15 minutes left.  Some
> > requirements may not be clear to you so making an assumption is the worst
> > thing you can do.  Seek clarity from the proctor.  We all know it is
> hard to
> > ask the question in the right way so they can answer but it is better
> than
> > assuming.  My strategy was to mark down the questions I have and then
> bring
> > the proctor over to my desk and ask him every question in one sitting to
> > save time.  That worked.  We had our debates about “clarifying” questions
> > but this saved me a huge amount of time doing all of my questions at the
> > same time.  One of my questions was even answered further in the lab
> based
> > on what another task asked.
> >
> >
> >
> > For the rest of the time I went back through my lab.  The only thing I do
> > not verify first time through is the dial plan.  This is my first time
> > making it to the end without leaving any points on the table so I had
> enough
> > time to verify my dial plan.  I figured there is no way every test call
> > could work 100% without me testing anything but 911.  I was right.  I
> fixed
> > a lot of silly mistakes.
> >
> >
> >
> > IPexpert Training Notes
> >
> > You need the 5-lab handbook and the 4 labs you get from the One Week Lab
> > Experience.  I have 3 more labs from the previous round of OWLE and those
> > helped as well.  I hope IPexpert finds a way to include those questions
> that
> > require you to think outside the box or features that no one uses in the
> > real world in their materials.  The proctor told us during one lab there
> are
> > several tracks per CCIE Lab.  There is a 30% change between each lab in
> the
> > same track.  So let’s say there are 4 voice tracks and 4 labs per track
> > (just using round numbers).  Even if you get Track 3 Lab 1 and then get
> > Track 3 Lab2, you can still easily fail.  That can be a big 30%.  The
> point
> > is every practice question is important so the more questions you have
> the
> > better.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have had scenarios that I could not get working during past labs but
> there
> > was never one scenario where I said, “I have no idea how to do this.”
> > IPexpert will give you all of the technical skills to pass but
> unfortunately
> > that may not enough.  With all of the words and all of the assumptions
> they
> > expect you to make, there is no good way I can think of to prepare for
> that.
> > Especially with integrated troubleshooting.  You may think of things
> they do
> > that make sure phones not get DHCP but there are things that will not
> break
> > your configuration that you still have to spot and fix.  After taking the
> > lab many times, you start to understand what are some of these things to
> > look for and you making check those things part of your routine.
> >
> >
> >
> > The new Troubleshooting course is essential.  Seeing the debugs in the
> > IPexpert practice labs is nowhere as good as having Vik walk you through
> it.
> > I can now easily read h323, SIP, and mgcp traces thanks to that class.
> >
> >
> >
> > Other Notes
> >
> > I heard in the past people could skip sections like CUCCX, QoS, and/or
> > Troubleshooting and still pass.  I do not believe that is possible
> anymore
> > if it ever was in the past.  Assume the worst that every questions is
> worth
> > 5 points.  That means you can only miss 4 questions.  There is always
> stuff
> > that you think you configured right that you really did not so you cannot
> > leave ANY points on the table.  You have to leave thinking you got 90+
> > points to have a chance in passing.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am done ranting.
> >
> >
> >
> > Let me (and the list) know if you have any questions,
> >
> >
> >
> > Cory
> >
> >
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