Thanks for sharing that valuable info Josh. Me and my peers were speaking about 
that exact thing (having the routers and switches. I'll make sure and use the 
ESXi over the desktop version. Thanks again.



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From: Josh Petro <josh.pe...@gmail.com<mailto:josh.pe...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:21 PM
To: Kenneth Staples <kstap...@cisco.com<mailto:kstap...@cisco.com>>
Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>" 
<ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Lab Prep via VMware

If you're serious about studying, I would avoid the desktop version and go with 
ESXi and a good, reliable machine. You'll be fighting fatigue, the labs and 
learning new stuff, so adding troubleshooting a VMware Desktop issue will only 
frustrate you unnecessarily.
I have 7961's and they were fine. I would recommend getting two 9900 series 
phones if you can so you can simulate video. Trust me, having the phones, 
gateways and switch will help a ton. Also, just find a 3750 switch and forget 
the router switch-modules. It's much easier and you'll still learn the needed 
commands. Just make sure you pay attention to the commands for those 
switch-modules (for VLAN setup, etc.) when studying.

Anyone else, please feel free to comment.

Josh


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Kenneth Staples (kstaples) 
<kstap...@cisco.com<mailto:kstap...@cisco.com>> wrote:
Thanks josh. I've been hearing that the VMWare desktop should be all that's 
needed with the exception of some physical routers/switches for the branch 
sites and phones of course. The the Lab requirements for the new Collab IE, 
what more equipment may be needed….or will your current set up be sufficient? 
Might need additional phones of course for video. Thanks



Kenneth Staples (Shift 7am – 4pm CST)
Customer Support Engineer
Cisco RMS - Unified Communications
kstap...@cisco.com<http://kstap...@cisco.com>
Phone: +1 512 340 3143<tel:%2B1%20512%20340%203143>
CCNOC = 866-777-6269<tel:866-777-6269>
GVNOC = 866-643-9428<tel:866-643-9428>
TelePresence = (888) 654-9113<tel:%28888%29%20654-9113>
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9500 Amberglen Blvd.
United States
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From: Josh Petro <josh.pe...@gmail.com<mailto:josh.pe...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:37 PM
To: Kenneth Staples <kstap...@cisco.com<mailto:kstap...@cisco.com>>
Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>" 
<ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Lab Prep via VMware

Kenneth
I run my entire lab on ESXi 5.1 in demo mode. Saves having to purchase since 
this is lab anyhow. Just shutdown the VMs and the host when you're don't for 
the day and you'll get some time out of it. I have a dell workstation with a 
Xeon processor with 6 cores and 24gb RAM. The more important equipment is the 
routers. I did two attempts on the voice lab and having the routers makes a 
huge difference for home studying. For collaboration, you can get by with most 
of the 2800/3800 features until a 2900/3900 is available on the cheap.
Josh

On Tuesday, December 10, 2013, Kenneth Staples (kstaples) wrote:
I wanted to ask if there is anyone out there preparing for the Voice CCIE lab 
using a VM server for the all UC servers involved and maybe even for the 
routers/switches as well? I could understand if your running all the UC servers 
on one VM server and the routers/switches that are needed are seperate from the 
VM.

The reason I ask is because I'd like to see if it's possible to study 
convenient from my home (without having run 4 to 5 servers) rather than coming 
into the office to study for the lab. Ideally, I'd like to have one VM server 
running all UC nodes, and maybe a couple of routers/switches (non VM if 
necessary) and of course the physical phones to run from my home for 
easy/convenience of studying and less equipment as possible. However, I'm not 
sure if this is possible. Thanks in advance for your response.



Kenneth Staples (Shift 7am – 4pm CST)
Customer Support Engineer
Cisco RMS - Unified Communications
kstap...@cisco.com<http://kstap...@cisco.com>
Phone: +1 512 340 3143<tel:%2B1%20512%20340%203143>
CCNOC = 866-777-6269<tel:866-777-6269>
GVNOC = 866-643-9428<tel:866-643-9428>
TelePresence = (888) 654-9113<tel:%28888%29%20654-9113>
Cisco Systems, Inc.
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United States
Cisco.com - http://www.cisco.com

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