Hi
Actually I mean about switch and router From: Bennajer Isidro [mailto:bennajer.isi...@outlook.com] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:38 PM To: Chrysostomos Christofi Cc: wilson.sam...@bt.com; kstap...@cisco.com; josh.pe...@gmail.com; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Lab Prep via VMware I just started my voice study. Currently im running all my equipment in virtual environment. To install all uc server. U can try to dl vmplayer then install esxi inside of it. On 12 Dec, 2013, at 20:15, "Chrysostomos Christofi" <ch.christ...@logicom.net<mailto:ch.christ...@logicom.net>> wrote: Hi Could you pls advice how to run a switch and router into vm workstation? From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of wilson.sam...@bt.com<mailto:wilson.sam...@bt.com> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:09 PM To: kstap...@cisco.com<mailto:kstap...@cisco.com>; josh.pe...@gmail.com<mailto:josh.pe...@gmail.com> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Lab Prep via VMware Hi Kenneth, I have used VMWare Workstation ver 8 ( I am not very sure what version I am running for the last 1 year) but VMWare Workstation works fine, no issues at all. However, there is one catch, and that is, one is at the mercy of the Host OS's resource allocations (CPUs, Memory etc) and that tends to slow down the installation in most of the times (I have an old Dual Xeon, 16 GB Mem with 500G + 1 TB HDD on which I run these beasts) the Host OS is Win XP 64 Bit and it works, though I can run almost 5 VMs in parallel, it becomes slow, thanks to the XP BUT, just last sunday I saw my colleague running OS X on his Mac Pro Notebook, with 4 VMs (with UC 7.0 Servers) and Call of Duty and 2 Windows Server 2003 VMs without ANY hint of slowing down the system or turning it into an oven. That experience makes me believe that, its much better to go for a Mac Pro (16 GB ver or whatever the max is allowed) and play whatever you like on it, with the help of VMWare Fusion (thats what he is running). I am pretty sure, this setup is worth it, if it works easy, because just 2 run any machine with 2 CPUs (with Cooling and HDD incl) can make a good size hole whenever the electricity bill comes due :-| Let us know which road you are taking, I am almost certain to go with the Mac Pro route. Regards ________________________________ From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com> [ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com>] On Behalf Of Kenneth Staples (kstaples) [kstap...@cisco.com<mailto:kstap...@cisco.com>] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:25 PM To: Josh Petro Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Lab Prep via VMware Thanks for sharing that valuable info Josh. Me and my peers were speaking about that exact thing (having the routers and switches. I'll make sure and use the ESXi over the desktop version. Thanks again. Kenneth Staples (Shift 7am – 4pm CST) Customer Support Engineer Cisco RMS - Unified Communications kstap...@cisco.com<https://webmail.bt.com/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx> Phone: +1 512 340 3143 CCNOC = 866-777-6269 GVNOC = 866-643-9428 TelePresence = (888) 654-9113 Cisco Systems, Inc. 9500 Amberglen Blvd. United States Cisco.com<http://Cisco.com> - http://www.cisco.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html From: Josh Petro <josh.pe...@gmail.com<mailto:josh.pe...@gmail.com>> Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:21 PM To: Kenneth Staples <kstap...@cisco.com<mailto:kstap...@cisco.com>> Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Lab Prep via VMware If you're serious about studying, I would avoid the desktop version and go with ESXi and a good, reliable machine. You'll be fighting fatigue, the labs and learning new stuff, so adding troubleshooting a VMware Desktop issue will only frustrate you unnecessarily. I have 7961's and they were fine. I would recommend getting two 9900 series phones if you can so you can simulate video. Trust me, having the phones, gateways and switch will help a ton. Also, just find a 3750 switch and forget the router switch-modules. It's much easier and you'll still learn the needed commands. Just make sure you pay attention to the commands for those switch-modules (for VLAN setup, etc.) when studying. Anyone else, please feel free to comment. Josh On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Kenneth Staples (kstaples) <kstap...@cisco.com<mailto:kstap...@cisco.com>> wrote: Thanks josh. I've been hearing that the VMWare desktop should be all that's needed with the exception of some physical routers/switches for the branch sites and phones of course. The the Lab requirements for the new Collab IE, what more equipment may be needed….or will your current set up be sufficient? Might need additional phones of course for video. Thanks Kenneth Staples (Shift 7am – 4pm CST) Customer Support Engineer Cisco RMS - Unified Communications kstap...@cisco.com<http://kstap...@cisco.com> Phone: +1 512 340 3143<tel:%2B1%20512%20340%203143> CCNOC = 866-777-6269<tel:866-777-6269> GVNOC = 866-643-9428<tel:866-643-9428> TelePresence = (888) 654-9113<tel:%28888%29%20654-9113> Cisco Systems, Inc. 9500 Amberglen Blvd. United States Cisco.com<http://Cisco.com> - http://www.cisco.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. For corporate legal information go to: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html From: Josh Petro <josh.pe...@gmail.com<mailto:josh.pe...@gmail.com>> Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:37 PM To: Kenneth Staples <kstap...@cisco.com<mailto:kstap...@cisco.com>> Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<mailto:ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Lab Prep via VMware Kenneth I run my entire lab on ESXi 5.1 in demo mode. Saves having to purchase since this is lab anyhow. Just shutdown the VMs and the host when you're don't for the day and you'll get some time out of it. I have a dell workstation with a Xeon processor with 6 cores and 24gb RAM. The more important equipment is the routers. I did two attempts on the voice lab and having the routers makes a huge difference for home studying. For collaboration, you can get by with most of the 2800/3800 features until a 2900/3900 is available on the cheap. Josh On Tuesday, December 10, 2013, Kenneth Staples (kstaples) wrote: I wanted to ask if there is anyone out there preparing for the Voice CCIE lab using a VM server for the all UC servers involved and maybe even for the routers/switches as well? I could understand if your running all the UC servers on one VM server and the routers/switches that are needed are seperate from the VM. The reason I ask is because I'd like to see if it's possible to study convenient from my home (without having run 4 to 5 servers) rather than coming into the office to study for the lab. Ideally, I'd like to have one VM server running all UC nodes, and maybe a couple of routers/switches (non VM if necessary) and of course the physical phones to run from my home for easy/convenience of studying and less equipment as possible. However, I'm not sure if this is possible. 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