Here are links to the blueprints.

https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-11620

https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-11621

It looks like they are much more clearly defined than previously, not looked
in detail but at first glance the only issue I would have would be NAC and
VSS, didnt see either of them coming

Regards

Pete

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> From: "Phil Priest" <[email protected]>
> To: "Thomas Perrier" <[email protected]>,     "Leigh Jewell"
>        <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE Lab version 2
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> Hmmm VSS, try labbing that up at home!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas
> Perrier
> Sent: 18 May 2011 09:37
> To: Leigh Jewell
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE Lab version 2
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Leigh Jewell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Noticed there is an announcement on the CCIE learning network website
> > about a version 2.0 of the lab:
> >
> > View the announcement
> >
> > Trouble is I can't find any more information.
> >
> > Anyone else found anything ?
>
> Nope, I guess they've not updated the pages yet.
>
> I hope they got rid of Core Knowledge questions, replaced by
> troubleshooting like in the R&S and Voice labs (not sure for the version
> 3 SP lab)! We should soon know. At least we should get rid of
> 4.2 software and the old Location Appliance. Wait and see...
>
> -Thomas
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:23:51 +0200
> From: Ralph Olsen <[email protected]>
> To: Thomas Perrier <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE Lab version 2
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> I'm thinking Mesh, CleanAir, MSE, Troubleshooting, 7.0.X Software. And
> NCS 1.0 :o)
>
> /Ralph
>
> 2011/5/18 Thomas Perrier <[email protected]>:
> > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Leigh Jewell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> Noticed there is an announcement on the CCIE learning network website
> about
> >> a version 2.0 of the lab:
> >>
> >> View the announcement
> >>
> >> Trouble is I can't find any more information.
> >>
> >> Anyone else found anything ?
> >
> > Nope, I guess they've not updated the pages yet.
> >
> > I hope they got rid of Core Knowledge questions, replaced by
> > troubleshooting like in the R&S and Voice labs (not sure for the
> > version 3 SP lab)! We should soon know. At least we should get rid of
> > 4.2 software and the old Location Appliance. Wait and see...
> >
> > -Thomas
> > _______________________________________________
> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:49:19 +0200
> From: Ralph Olsen <[email protected]>
> To: Phil Priest <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE Lab version 2
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Oh they updated it.
>
> As I see it the new stuff is:
>
> VSS, Office Extend, CleanAir, Video, Context Aware Service, MSE,
> client link, band select.
>
> But what did they take out?
>
> /Ralph
>
> 2011/5/18 Phil Priest <[email protected]>:
> > Hmmm VSS, try labbing that up at home!
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas
> > Perrier
> > Sent: 18 May 2011 09:37
> > To: Leigh Jewell
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE Lab version 2
> >
> > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Leigh Jewell <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Noticed there is an announcement on the CCIE learning network website
> >> about a version 2.0 of the lab:
> >>
> >> View the announcement
> >>
> >> Trouble is I can't find any more information.
> >>
> >> Anyone else found anything ?
> >
> > Nope, I guess they've not updated the pages yet.
> >
> > I hope they got rid of Core Knowledge questions, replaced by
> > troubleshooting like in the R&S and Voice labs (not sure for the version
> > 3 SP lab)! We should soon know. At least we should get rid of
> > 4.2 software and the old Location Appliance. Wait and see...
> >
> > -Thomas
> > _______________________________________________
> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> > please visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
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> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:32:09 +0100
> From: zzz <[email protected]>
> To: Ralph Olsen <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE Lab version 2
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> IPv6 has been added. Can anyone find the updated hardware list?
>
>
>  ___
>
> Zzz
>
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Ralph Olsen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Oh they updated it.
> >
> > As I see it the new stuff is:
> >
> > VSS, Office Extend, CleanAir, Video, Context Aware Service, MSE,
> > client link, band select.
> >
> > But what did they take out?
> >
> > /Ralph
> >
> > 2011/5/18 Phil Priest <[email protected]>:
> > > Hmmm VSS, try labbing that up at home!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas
> > > Perrier
> > > Sent: 18 May 2011 09:37
> > > To: Leigh Jewell
> > > Cc: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE Lab version 2
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Leigh Jewell <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >> Noticed there is an announcement on the CCIE learning network website
> > >> about a version 2.0 of the lab:
> > >>
> > >> View the announcement
> > >>
> > >> Trouble is I can't find any more information.
> > >>
> > >> Anyone else found anything ?
> > >
> > > Nope, I guess they've not updated the pages yet.
> > >
> > > I hope they got rid of Core Knowledge questions, replaced by
> > > troubleshooting like in the R&S and Voice labs (not sure for the
> version
> > > 3 SP lab)! We should soon know. At least we should get rid of
> > > 4.2 software and the old Location Appliance. Wait and see...
> > >
> > > -Thomas
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> > > please visit www.ipexpert.com
> > >
> > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> > > www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please
> > visit www.ipexpert.com
> > >
> > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> > visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:32:05 +0000
> From: Kristj?n ?lafur E?var?sson <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]"
>        <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE WIreless Voice requirements
> Message-ID:
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> I have CME in my LAB. I wanted it to register the 7921 and one wired phone
> for testing. I doesn?t hurt if you can get it up and running to
> see how it is done. And also on CME the MOH over multicast can be
> configured
> for multicast testing. But yeah you don?t have to know how to configure
> it for the LAB. It is just one of those you might want to take further
> do deepen the knowledge of wireless voice over ip/QOS/multicast.
>
> For example QOS, it can be interesting to look at show mls qos interface
> fx/x
> to see before and after a phone call on the wired phone and to see the call
> controll QOS handling on the CME port.
>
> I could post you a basic CME configuration that I use if you like.
> It auto registers phones with numbers and I have Multicast routing
> on it aswell. Then you can test multicast with 7921 when you press hold
> on the wired phone.
>
> regards. Kristjan
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: CCIE_Wireless Digest, Vol 26, Issue 17
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>   2. Re: CCIE WIreless Voice requirements. (Victor Platov (viplatov))
>   3. Re: CCIE WIreless Voice requirements. (Chad Teal)
>   4. Re: CCIE WIreless Voice requirements. (Brendon Hwang)
>   5. CCIE Lab version 2 (Leigh Jewell)
>   6. Re: CCIE Lab version 2 (Thomas Perrier)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 21:01:50 +0100
> From: Pete Nugent <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE WIreless Voice requirements.
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>
> Does anyone know if it is the CME that isused in the lab and how deep do we
> need to know this, I am looking at setting this up as an addition to my
> lab.
>
> Regards
>
> Pete
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> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 22:27:34 +0200
> From: "Victor Platov (viplatov)" <[email protected]>
> To: "Pete Nugent" <[email protected]>,
>        <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE WIreless Voice requirements.
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> It's not CCIE Voice lab so QoS and option 150 should be enough.
>
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pete
> Nugent
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:02 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE WIreless Voice requirements.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know if it is the CME that isused in the lab and how deep do
> we need to know this, I am looking at setting this up as an addition to
> my lab.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Pete
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:39:14 -0400
> From: Chad Teal <[email protected]>
> To: Pete Nugent <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE WIreless Voice requirements.
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> As far as configuring CME, that is outside of the scope of the exam.  It
> should be ready for you. The thing you need to concentrate on is end to end
> QoS and that is to include your CME router.  You will also need to know how
> to configure your 7921 phone so it really wouldn't hurt to have this as
> part
> of your lab if your budget can afford it.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Pete Nugent <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if it is the CME that isused in the lab and how deep do
> we
> > need to know this, I am looking at setting this up as an addition to my
> lab.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> > visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> >
> >
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:28 +1000
> From: Brendon Hwang <[email protected]>
> To: Chad Teal <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], Pete Nugent
>        <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE WIreless Voice requirements.
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I agree that it is not the scope of CCIE Wireless however sometimes the
> problem could come from CME side for example CME port on the switch is not
> configured properly but unintentionally.  It is your responsibility to find
> out if proctor didn't do a good job.  It sounds bad but that can be a part
> of lab, too.
> Please make sure you check thoroughly if somehow phone is not registering
> or you don't get voice in proper queue and etc.
> Sometimes you can request proctor to reboot the CME if you think it's
> better option to save time.
>
> Just little tip that can help you.(not a burden I am adding)
>
> Cheers,
> Brendon
>
> On 18/05/2011, at 6:39 AM, Chad Teal wrote:
>
> > As far as configuring CME, that is outside of the scope of the exam.  It
> should be ready for you. The thing you need to concentrate on is end to end
> QoS and that is to include your CME router.  You will also need to know how
> to configure your 7921 phone so it really wouldn't hurt to have this as part
> of your lab if your budget can afford it.
> >
> > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Pete Nugent <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Does anyone know if it is the CME that isused in the lab and how deep do
> we need to know this, I am looking at setting this up as an addition to my
> lab.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > CT
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:24:58 +1000
> From: Leigh Jewell <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE Lab version 2
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Noticed there is an announcement on the CCIE learning network website about
> a version 2.0 of the lab:
>
> View the announcement<
> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/groups/ccie-wireless-study-group>
>
> Trouble is I can't find any more information.
>
> Anyone else found anything ?
>
> Regards,
> Leigh
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:36:50 +0200
> From: Thomas Perrier <[email protected]>
> To: Leigh Jewell <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE Lab version 2
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Leigh Jewell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Noticed there is an announcement on the CCIE learning network website
> about
> > a version 2.0 of the lab:
> >
> > View the announcement
> >
> > Trouble is I can't find any more information.
> >
> > Anyone else found anything ?
>
> Nope, I guess they've not updated the pages yet.
>
> I hope they got rid of Core Knowledge questions, replaced by
> troubleshooting like in the R&S and Voice labs (not sure for the
> version 3 SP lab)! We should soon know. At least we should get rid of
> 4.2 software and the old Location Appliance. Wait and see...
>
> -Thomas
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:55:22 +0200
> From: Thomas Perrier <[email protected]>
> To: Leigh Jewell <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE Lab version 2
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Thomas Perrier <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Leigh Jewell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> Noticed there is an announcement on the CCIE learning network website
> about
> >> a version 2.0 of the lab:
> >>
> >> View the announcement
> >>
> >> Trouble is I can't find any more information.
> >>
> >> Anyone else found anything ?
> >
> > Nope, I guess they've not updated the pages yet.
>
> They updated the site:
> <
> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_wireless/syllabus
> >.
>
> -Thomas
>
>
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