Yes that doesn´t work anymore in 7 code. I am 7.0.220 atm, don´t know if it 
makes difference.

Show run-config and show running-config gives me the same output.
It seems to me that more people are noticing it.

show run-config
Press Enter to continue...

System Inventory
NAME: "Chassis"    , DESCR: "4400 Series WLAN Controller:50 APs"
PID: AIR-WLC4402-50-K9,  VID: V02,  SN: xxxxxxxxxxxx

Burned-in MAC Address............................ 00:21:55:07:B3:

show running-config
(Sensa-4402) >show running-config

Notice: "show running-config" has been changed to be an alias to "show 
run-config".
Use "show run-config commands" to display the configuration commands.
Press Enter to continue or <Ctrl-Z> to abort...

System Inventory
NAME: "Chassis"    , DESCR: "4400 Series WLAN Controller:50 APs"
PID: AIR-WLC4402-50-K9,  VID: V02,  SN: xxxxxxxxxxxx

no interfaces and vlan configuration commands as in 4.2 code.
only when I TFTP upload the config and look at it from there.

regards. Kristjan


From: Jason Boyers [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 8. júní 2012 11:58
To: Kristján Ólafur Eðvarðsson
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE_Wireless Digest, Vol 38, Issue 4


Have you tried the "show run-config commands" command for getting the interface 
config?  That may help you.

Jason Boyers
On Jun 8, 2012 6:37 AM, "Kristján Ólafur Eðvarðsson" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I am also in the process of re-evaluating my strategy since I have taken 
version 1 a couple of times
and I am preparing for version 2.

There are at least 2 things that I have to change as it seems to me.
When configuring a lot of common interfaces/VLANs on the WLC´s I used to like 
the idea
of creating the first set in GUI. Then take the show run copy/paste to notepad. 
Modify and
paste to other WLCs.

In version 7 however show-run doesn´t work as it used to. So it doesn´t show 
the config as it should be pasted in.
The only way today (it seems to me at least) is to TFTP upload the config file 
and edit it from notepad. But
that defeats the purpose of being faster :)

So I am going to use CLI from the start to do as much as possible and notepad 
with the Controllers and of course with the autonomous.
I onlny use the WEB gui on autonomous when there is something I don´t do that 
often like configuring specific QOS,TSPEC e.t.c
then the autonomous might help you. Some people use the GUI in autonomous to 
create the VLANs to avoid typos in bridge groups, vlans e.t.c.

another thing that I discovered was if you keep the interface names consistent 
in WLC. VLAN names and all names in lower cases when possible. According to 
requirements of course.
When doing common configuration for many WLC´s from WCS. You may use the WCS 
template to tie WLANS to Interfaces which usually doesn´t work becusae the 
interfaces on each
WLC is different and doesn´t get published in the WCS template configuration 
dialog. So by keeping the vlan names consistent in WLC´s it saves a lot of time 
instead of deploying
a WLAN template that points to the managment interface of each WLC (that is 
usually the only common thing) and then go to each WLC and rectify the WLAN to 
the correct VLAN interface. That takes time
and can´t be forgotten.

Another good thing is the WISM´s are gone and replaced by 5508s. This probably 
means we are short of 2 controllers as each WISM has 2 controllers. This can be 
confusing when the time is
ticking and after a long lab you easily make mistakes :D so I guess it is a 
little simpler with regards of creating many VLANs and intefaces.

my 5 cents.

regards. Kristjan

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:29:17 -0500
From: Jeff Rensink <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Lab strategy thoughts?
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I'm starting to think about lab strategy to help guide my hands-on practice.  I 
have a few thoughts as to order of operations and config methods. But I wanted 
to see what the group thought and what has worked well for them.

In terms of an order of operations, what have you found to be useful?

Obviously, to start things off you will want to read through the lab, write out 
your own diagrams and any other initial notes to help organize the information 
in a meaningful way.  I'm more looking to see which sections/technologies 
should be done first and which can wait until later.

When it comes to picking your sections/tasks to work on, what has been your 
order of operations?


Another area that I wonder about is what is the most efficient way to make your 
configurations.  On the WCS and autonomous APs, we have both CLI and GUIs.  We 
also have the WCS that can be used to configure WLCs and their associated APs.  
What have you found to be the most efficient method to make your configurations?


Jeff
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Jeff when I went through the lab I started off like you suggested reading the 
entire workbook and paraphrasing in my own way. I also circled things that 
required radios to be done or should be done together.

WCS can be used to do similar tasks on the WLCs and I would suggest using that 
if you are comfortable with it. I also used the CLI heavily, most of my tasks 
were done in notepad and then copy/pasted over. Learn autonomous CLI inside and 
out, seen as the GUI is so slow you'll be wasting time for page loads.

Without breaking NDA can't really offer much as to which sections/tasks to do 
first, but there will be a very obvious order that you should complete the lab 
in, or at least I thought there was.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Jeff Rensink 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

> I'm starting to think about lab strategy to help guide my hands-on
> practice.  I have a few thoughts as to order of operations and config
> methods. But I wanted to see what the group thought and what has
> worked well for them.
>
> In terms of an order of operations, what have you found to be useful?
>
> Obviously, to start things off you will want to read through the lab,
> write out your own diagrams and any other initial notes to help
> organize the information in a meaningful way.  I'm more looking to see
> which sections/technologies should be done first and which can wait until 
> later.
>
> When it comes to picking your sections/tasks to work on, what has been
> your order of operations?
>
>
> Another area that I wonder about is what is the most efficient way to
> make your configurations.  On the WCS and autonomous APs, we have both
> CLI and GUIs.  We also have the WCS that can be used to configure WLCs
> and their associated APs.  What have you found to be the most
> efficient method to make your configurations?
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
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To: Jeff Rensink <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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In general, here are my recommendations:

1) Quickly review the test doc and diagram while reading

2) Configure the switched network/routing/wired QoS/multicast section, since 
everything is dependent on that working properly.

3) Configure autonomous APs section.  You should finish these (#1-3) in about 3 
hours.  In San Jose, that gets you to lunch.  Be sure to save configs 
regularly!  Then, I rebooted before going to lunch.

4) Do a minimal config of the WLCs.  Basically, items that are individually 
applicable to a controller (interfaces), items that are easy to copy and paste 
(mobility and rf group names), and anything that would require the WLCs to be 
rebooted (adding certs, SNMPv3, etc.)  Notepad is your friend, with copy and 
paste.  Be careful to change things as necessary for each WLC.

5) Import the WLCs into WCS.  Then configure WLCs using templates, but don't 
use WLC Config Groups - they take too much time for the test.  This would also 
include configuring the video and voice section.

6) Finish configuring WCS and add the MSE.

7) Configure clients for connectivity.

8) You should have 1-2 hours left at this point to validate the configurations. 
 Now, there should be some general validation going on throughout (can you 
ping??)  This is doing full validations.

This was a successful process for me.  One key is to figure out how to do each 
part of the process the fastest for you.  I listed what worked for me.  Another 
is to have that time at the end.  You will misread and fat finger things.  You 
need time to review what you've configured.

Hope this helps.

Jason Boyers, CCIE #26024 (Wireless)
Blog: netboyers.wordpress.com<http://netboyers.wordpress.com>


On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Jeff Rensink 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

> I'm starting to think about lab strategy to help guide my hands-on
> practice.  I have a few thoughts as to order of operations and config
> methods. But I wanted to see what the group thought and what has
> worked well for them.
>
> In terms of an order of operations, what have you found to be useful?
>
> Obviously, to start things off you will want to read through the lab,
> write out your own diagrams and any other initial notes to help
> organize the information in a meaningful way.  I'm more looking to see
> which sections/technologies should be done first and which can wait until 
> later.
>
> When it comes to picking your sections/tasks to work on, what has been
> your order of operations?
>
>
> Another area that I wonder about is what is the most efficient way to
> make your configurations.  On the WCS and autonomous APs, we have both
> CLI and GUIs.  We also have the WCS that can be used to configure WLCs
> and their associated APs.  What have you found to be the most
> efficient method to make your configurations?
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
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