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SHELX was never intended for refinements at lower resolution than 2A, it tends to 'over-refine' and give a low R-factor at the cost of poorer geometry and B-values unless used very carefully with tight restraints (i.e. small esds). It does not provide torsion angle restraints, this has the advantage that you can use the Ramachandran plot etc. for diagnostic purposes (as you are correctly doing). However if you have NCS you should try using the NCSY non-crystalographi symmetry restraints, which effectively restrains equivalent torsion angles in different molecules to be equal. Including the hydrogen atoms on carbon and nitrogen in combination with the antibumping restraints will also help to avoid bad torsion angles, so with care it may be possible to get a reasonable refinement with SHELX (do not include the hydrogens of OH groups in such cases, they can cause problems and do nothing to help you).

In fact your R and free-R are very respectable for such a case, though care is needed in the selection of the free-R reflections for twins.

As far as I know, Refmac can not yet refine twins, but I understand that Garib is working on it. CNS can, but you will need advice from a CNS expert. In fact at this resolution CNS is a good choice anyway and would allow NCS constraints and torsion angle restraints.

George


Ethayathulla Abdulsamath wrote:
hi all

I am refining twinned data 2.5A resolution using SHELX. My problem it's geometry get bad I mean dihedral angle (ramachandran plot ). It keeps on decreasing when i try to refine further to imporve my phases. Is there anyway to define restrain for this dihedral angles.

I am notable to refine same structure using ccp4 and cns using same twinning operator and twinning fraction. Any comment on this .

The R-factor is 21 Rfree is 25 in shelx whenever i tried to refine using same twinning fraction which is already refined using shelx in both ccp4 and cns it gives around R & Rfree of 33 & 34. That means it is not taking account of twinning fraction I think so . but iam following same procedure whichever given in CNS & CCP4 manual. But it is not working for me.

But shelx works well but most allowed region decrease refinement by refinement.

plz give suggestions on this !


Thanking you

Ethayathulla

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