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Well when E&S brought out their 3-D stations (PS300/PS390_they cost more
than that I believe in late eighties/early 90's -older people who actually
purchased them could confirm...
M

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Sent: mardi 31 janvier 2006 15:16
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Hi Stuart,

Well, 20,000 £ (ex VAT) for a 20" UXGA is probably not something a lab 
can afford as easily as a CRT + graphic board... unless you would like 
to ship some free for advertisement (-;

Best regards,
Philippe

Le 31 janv. 06, à 14:25, Stuart McKay a écrit :

> Anastassis,
>  
> Interesting to read about the demise of the CRT and your problems with 
> flickering screens.
>  
> You (and the other BB members) may be interested to learn of an 
> alternative technology from IRIS-3D in the UK. Historically 
> targeted at the Oil and Gas Sector for subsurface imaging, it is now 
> being evaluated in the Life Sciences. This product does not suffer 
> from the flickering issues mentioned in this thread, being based 
> around dual projection LCD technology and not requiring special 
> glasses to view:
>  
> The IRIS solution is a glasses-free 3D display system that enables you 
> to work at up to UXGA resolution in stereo mode, is 2D/3D compatible, 
> can be used in a normal office environment, does not suffer from 
> stereo cross-talk (this means no more ghosting, eye-strain or 
> headaches - enabling you to concentrate on your data rather than be 
> distracted by the display technology) and is compatible with all 
> stereo enabled software on a wide range of SW/HW platforms.
>  
> More information is available from the company website or by 
> contacting me directly.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Stuart
> ...........................
> Stuart McKay, PhD
> CEO
> IRIS-3D Ltd
> James Weir Building
> 75 Montrose St
> Glasgow G1 1XJ
> Scotland, UK
>  
> (T) +44-141-548-2423
> (F) +44-141-552-5105
> (M) +44 7786 073663
>  
> http://www.iris3d.com
>  
>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Anastassis Perrakis
>> To: Warren DeLano
>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; CCP4 Board ; ono ; Albert Pauw
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb]: Current Stereo 3D Display Info
>>
>> Hi all -
>>
>> While on the subject and after thanking Warren for providing the 
>> excellent resource ...:
>>
>> We have some nice 3D monitors and Nvidia cards in Linux PC's we do 
>> stereo with.
>>
>> Warren correctly points out that you need:
>>
>>    1280x960  @ 120 Hz requires H-sync of 123 kHz 
>>       1344x1008 @ 120 Hz requires H-sync of 130 kHz 
>>       1400x1050 @ 120 Hz requires H-sync of 136 kHz  
>>
>> (In fact you need your monitor to switch to these refresh rates only 
>> when in stereo, but thats a detail)
>>
>> However, I am totally unable to convince the NVidia drivers we have 
>> for Linux to
>> operate at the sync rates I want them to and Warren advices! Thus, we 
>> have noticeable flicker at stereo
>> mode (in the non-stereo windows only) which is a shame, given our 
>> excellent monitors.
>> Is that expected or can be corrected ?
>>
>> Could anyone please advice me how to set the Nvidia Linux drivers to 
>> operate at the proper sync rates then ?
>>
>> Tassos
>>
>> PS - Iiyama Vision Master Pro 514 / HM204DT (H-sync: 142 kHz) is 
>> still available by some European vendors new and is great, we have 
>> two, plus an old trusty EIZO T966 which is also cool. (Warren, I 
>> could not find that on your list,its a good machine, does 136 and you 
>> might be able to find one still)
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2006, at 20:59, Warren DeLano wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> Whether you favor Macintosh, Linux, or Windows for stereo 3D
>>> visualization, you're going to need some specific (and increasingly
>>> rare) hardware.  
>>>
>>> To help you find it, we've just updated our information page on
>>> stereo-3D-capable displays, cards, emitters, and glasses:
>>>
>>> http://pymol.sf.net/stereo3d.html
>>>
>>> Remarkably, we can now only find one company selling a brand new CRT
>>> monitor suitable for stereo 3D.  If you find any others, please do 
>>> let
>>> us know!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Warren
>>>
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