Dear Tiago,

I asked a few colleagues who are experts in aperiodic and quasi crystals.
Ray Withers replied in the email below.
I converted the ppt file he refers to as a pdf, so it is not so large.  Take a look at his analysis there.
Very interesting, so maybe there are more modulated protein crystals out there than we thought.

I also asked Christer Svensson what he thought  and he said "It might of course be something complicated, like a modulation.
But looking at just the first of the pictures, this pattern could be generated by "twinning" of  a hexagonal lattice.
One part of the crystal is rotated (around the 3 or 6-fold axis) about 22 degrees with respect to the other.

 It would be a lot easier to judge by doing the indexing."

Christer's program TwinSolve can handle this type of data, you may want to contact him.  


Have fun with it. Gloria

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G'day Gloria,

Very interesting. Looks very much like a so-called triple-q modulated
structure (see the attached .ppt file. This sort of thing sometimes occurs
as a Moire layer stacking effect.


With best wishes,


Ray


Hi Ray, just received your aperiodic email and then this one off the ccp4
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> What do you make of this diffraction?  Gloria
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> Dear all,
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> I would like to share with you a very strange diffraction pattern
> that I recently collected at the SLS.
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> You can have a look at some pictures of this diffraction pattern here:
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> http://tiagobarros.home.sapo.pt/zoom_in.png
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> http://tiagobarros.home.sapo.pt/45.png (45 degrees)
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> http://tiagobarros.home.sapo.pt/90.png
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> http://tiagobarros.home.sapo.pt/135.png
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> Some additional information. These happened with just one of my
> crystals. I know from previous experience that my crystals (from a
> membrane protein) are made of stacks of 2D crystals (SG P321). This
> stacking is very often not that ordered, which leads to different
> layers with different orientation within the same crystal. The space
> group of my crystals is usually either C2 or P3121.
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> I've found these circular motif of spots very curious, and I don't
> really have a good explanation for them.
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> Any idea of what might have caused this?
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> Thank you.
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> Tiago
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