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Juergen, No -- just thrilled by the emergence of dirt-cheap, well-integrated Unix alternatives to Windows for fast OpenGL visualization. No robust unix/opengl solution has ever existed at such a low price point before. Yes, cheap Linux has been available for ages, but no Linux system is "well-integrated" across systems hardware, kernel, opengl drivers, opengl hardware, and applications software the way it would need to be for visualization to work *really* well -- the way it does on Windows or Mac OS X. However, with Microsoft marginalizing OpenGL in Vista, and proprietary Linux OpenGL still as flakey as ever, we need some good news for scientific visualization. Apple has at last provided it, so why not celebrate? Cheers, Warren -- Warren L. DeLano, Ph.D. Principal Scientist . DeLano Scientific LLC . 400 Oyster Point Blvd., Suite 213 . South San Francisco, CA 94080 USA . Biz:(650)-872-0942 Tech:(650)-872-0834 . Fax:(650)-872-0273 Cell:(650)-346-1154 . mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: Juergen Bosch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:54 PM > To: Warren DeLano > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; CCP4BB > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb]: Mac Intel Benchmarks > > Hi Warren, > > are yo paid by Apple ? That sounds like an advertisement *g* > > Jürgen > > P.S. looking forward to my MacBook > > Warren DeLano wrote: > > >*** For details on how to be removed from this list visit the *** > >*** CCP4 home page http://www.ccp4.ac.uk *** > > > > > >Performance enthusiasts: > > > >Having finished the MacPyMOL universal binary > (http://delsci.com/pre), > >I couldn't resist running some benchmarks in order see > whether Apple's > >performance claims hold up with respect to PyMOL. > > > >It seems they do: At equal Ghz, the iMac Core Duo provides 170% the > >graphics performance of the old iMac G5, 141% of the single-threaded > >CPU performance, and 239% of the multi-threaded rendering > performance. > > > >Even more impressive is how well this $1,300 all-in-one > system performs > >in comparison to a traditional $5,000 Linux Opteron > workstation. The > >iMac Core Duo provides 30% greater graphics performance than > my Quadro > >FX 3000-equipped dual Opteron and is within 10% in terms of > raw PyMOL > >number crunching power (surface calculation and ray tracing). > > > >Wow. > > > >So with respect to PyMOL, Intel-based Macs have at least a > 2-3X better > >price/performance ratio over dual-CPU Opteron workstations (at least > >from a commercial vendor like Sun). If you don't need 64-bit > >computing, these new iMacs are a solid choice for molecular > >visualization with PyMOL. > > > >Raw data here: http://delsci.com/bench > > > >Machine tested on left: > ><http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore? > family=iMa > >c > > > > > > > >Cheers, > >Warren > > > >-- > >Warren L. DeLano, Ph.D. > >Principal Scientist > > > >. DeLano Scientific LLC > >. 400 Oyster Point Blvd., Suite 213 > >. South San Francisco, CA 94080 USA > >. Biz:(650)-872-0942 Tech:(650)-872-0834 > >. Fax:(650)-872-0273 Cell:(650)-346-1154 > >. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Jürgen Bosch > Howard Hughes Medical Institute and > University of Washington > Dept. of Biochemistry, K-418 > 1705 NE Pacific Street > Seattle, WA 98195 > Box 357742 > Phone: +1-206-616-4542 > FAX: +1-206-685-7002 > > > > > >
