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On Tuesday 25 April 2006 10:48 am, James Holton wrote:
> 
> Ahh yes, the ol' "beam heating hypothesis".  I used to believe in it too...
> 
> James Murray just cited studies that cast a great deal of doubt on the 
> idea that there is any significant heating of protein crystals by x-ray 
> beams.

Due to the asynchronous nature of the web, I have only received
James Murray's message just now, followed soon after by Eddie's.
Looks like interesting reading.

> If you think about it, a 30-degree gradient over 100 microns is 3000 
> degrees/cm.  That's like poking a red-hot nail into ice and expecting it 
> to keep glowing.

Well, more like expecting it to melt the ice.

> Even the most powerful 
> x-ray beams in the world are only milliwatt-class sources of energy and
> typically, only about 2% of the energy from the beam is deposited in the 
> sample. 


Back of the lunch-time napkin thought experiment:

100 watt light bulb is exposed to air (essentially nitrogen), losing
heat through radiation and conduction over a surface of 4piR^2 for R
approximately 30 mm.  ===>  ~ .01 watt per square mm.
The light bulb is hot, according to everyday experience

100 micron cube protein crystal heated by 2% of a 30 milliwatt
X-ray beam losing heat through conduction over a surface 
of 6 x 0.1^2mm  ===> ~ .01 watt per square mm.
Crystal is now, one would think, light-bulb temperature.

> Then again, it is always easier to rationalize things once you know the 
> right answer...

Measurement trumps thought experiment, but I am curious to learn
if I dropped a decimal point into my soup or if I am overlooking
something fundamental :-)

        Ethan


-- 
Ethan A Merritt
Biomolecular Structure Center
University of Washington, Seattle WA

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