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Hi Weikai,

Q1
If you give the keyword SOLVENT the mask is automatically calculated at updated at each refinement cycle. Scaling is controlled by the keywords BULK or SIMPLE as described in the manual. In version 5.3 of the program it is possible to use dummy atoms for mask calculation that are not used during actual refinement. How to use this option (and other new options) will (soon) appear first on the web page http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/latest_refmac.html from which the latest Refmac versions can be downloaded.

Q2
The bulk solvent correction in Refmac follows what is called the 'flat model' in the paper (a good paper to read in my opinion)

Jiang JS, Brunger AT.
Protein hydration observed by X-ray diffraction. Solvation properties of penicillopepsin and neuraminidase crystal structures.
J Mol Biol. 1994 Oct 14;243(1):100-15.

As the Refmac bulk solvent correction did not really contain new science we never published it. The few things that are important from the user's point of view are in the manual. We've never done comparative tests with CNS and our tests at the time were done on data always higher that 3.0-3.5 A resolution.


Roberto

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Hi All:

I have two questions for the bulk solvent model:

1. Maybe I missed this in reading the manual, but in Refmac is there a way of inputting an mask to define the bulk solvent? Or it is always done
automatically using the keyword SOLVENT?

2.  Is the bulk solvent model in Refmac somehow different from that in
CNS? For one of my low resolution data to 7A, the bulk solvent model in
Refmac seems to behave much better than that in CNS.  I only use rigid
body refinement and there is no TLS refinement in Refmac.  So in this
case, maybe the major difference of R factor using these two programs
would come from the bulk solvent models (maybe also the scaling of Fc to Fobs, or maximum likelyhood, etc.?). Anyway the R factors differ by 10% using the two different programs (40% in CNS vs. 30% in Refmac) when both have a bulk solvent model. If I turn off bulk solvent estimation in CNS,
the R factor drops by 5% (i.e. now R=35% in CNS).

Regards,

Weikai



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