On 8 Jun, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I suppose we must agree to disagree on this. I believe that such > courtesies should ALWAYS be followed given that one man's "urgent > matter" is another one's irrelevancy. By way of analogy, we > separate church and state (or at least claim to) largely because the > role of religion is not an issue that everyone agrees on. Some > countries would say it absolutely should dictate matters of policy > and law, such as with the Sharia, where other countries have had bad > experiences with this and feel that it should play no part in > defining systems which cover 100% of the population. I'm with the > latter group, and think that any behavior which covers 100% of a > list's subscribers should follow the rules of etiquette without > exception. It's the only way to keep the lines of demarcation clear.
All in our places with bright smiling faces? I am sure there are many who would disagree with you at this time, Jordan. It is a good time to be vociferous about our discontents. If some find them irrelevant, they can hit the delete button. Regards, Michael L. Love Ph.D Department of Biophysics and Biophysical Chemistry School of Medicine Johns Hopkins University 725 N. Wolfe Street Room 608B WBSB Baltimore MD 21205-2185 Interoffice Mail: 608B WBSB, SoM office: 410-614-2267 lab: 410-614-3179 fax: 410-502-6910 cell: 443-824-3451 http://www.gnu-darwin.org/ > - Jordan > > On Jun 8, 2006, at 1:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Thank you for your moderation. I would only reply that net courtesies >> such as topicality or avoiding cross-posting, though important, >> must be >> set aside when urgent matters are at hand. Important messages with >> broad applicability should obviously be posted to every relevant list, >> so that the people who are most interested can be informed regarding >> urgent matters. >> >> Obviously the threads will diverge in different forums where the >> interests vary, and the cross-posting addresses should be removed as >> required. >> >> Regards, >> proclus >> http://www.gnu-darwin.org/ >> >> >> On 8 Jun, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >>> First, thanks for no longer cross-posting to multiple Apple mailing >>> lists, it is appreciated (I notice that you are still cross-posting >>> to your own, but that is obviously your business). >>> >>> Second, I am compelled to note the fact that the darwin-dev mailing >>> list is intended for "technical discussion for general Darwin >>> software development", that being the wording of the description on >>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo. I'm well aware of the fact >>> that some consider the "wider issues" of software freedom and the >>> open source release process to be technical discussion, but I believe >>> those issues have already been more than adequately covered in this >>> thread and we're now well off track into gnu-darwin evangelism and >>> advocacy. This is not an advocacy list, nor is it intended for >>> covering the politics of free vs proprietary software. I'm not >>> saying those thing don't have their place on other lists, simply not >>> this one. >>> >>> This thread should therefore be closed (on darwin-dev) and discussion >>> returned to topics more in line with the charter of this list. Given >>> that the GNU-Darwin project has its own open mailing lists CC'd on >>> this discussion, it's also reasonable to expect that anyone from >>> darwin-dev who wishes to continue to participate in it can simply >>> subscribe to the appropriate gnu-darwin lists and do so there. >>> Please (everyone), remove darwin-dev from the CC line in any further >>> postings on this thread. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> - Jordan >>> >>> On Jun 8, 2006, at 12:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Some of you may not know that GNU/Linux system administration is >>>> one of >>>> my day jobs. I manage a wide range of systems. Here is a >>>> screenshot >>>> of my work desktop, so that you can see I use the same tools at work >>>> that I use at home at night on GNU-Darwin. (weekends too) >>>> >>>> http://proclus.gnu-darwin.org/debian.html >>>> >>>> The only time that I ever use proprietary software is when I am >>>> trying >>>> to help other users learn open source and/or free software. >>>> >>>> A storm is coming. It is coming for you emperor. >>>> >>>> If you are wondering what pulls all these ideas together, I think >>>> the >>>> following link does it best at this time. >>>> >>>> http://proclus.gnu-darwin.org/bootstrap.html >>>> >>>> Regards, (proclus) >>>> Michael L. Love Ph.D >>>> Department of Biophysics and Biophysical Chemistry >>>> School of Medicine >>>> Johns Hopkins University >>>> 725 N. Wolfe Street >>>> Room 608B WBSB >>>> Baltimore MD 21205-2185 >>>> >>>> Interoffice Mail: 608B WBSB, SoM >>>> >>>> office: 410-614-2267 >>>> lab: 410-614-3179 >>>> fax: 410-502-6910 >>>> cell: 443-824-3451 >>>> http://www.gnu-darwin.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Visit proclus realm! http://proclus.tripod.com/ >>>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- >>>> Version: 3.1 >>>> GMU/S d+@ s: a+ C++++ UBULI++++$ P+ L+++(++++) E--- W++ N- !o K- >>>> w--- !O >>>> M++@ V-- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP-- t+++(+) 5+++ X+ R tv-(--)@ b !DI D- G e >>>> ++++ >>>> h--- r+++ y++++ >>>> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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