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Juergen Bosch wrote:
I agree with Bart in the "reviewing part" but during refinement I use all available data, depending on NCS, completeness and redundancy it might also be lower than 1 sigma but not lower than 0.5. I would expect that XDS will have a better I/sigI versus e.g. HKL2000 - but maybe somebody much wiser might comment on this.

Once the refinement is done Table 1 is adjusted to meet the expectations of reviewers I/sigI and Rsym, but the stuff that goes to the PDB will contain all data :-)

Maybe I don't understand you correctly but the role of Table 1 is to describe the experimental data that was used to derive the model. You can't use resolution X for refinement and then report statistics up to resolution Y because it looks nicer. Reviewers should definately have a problem with that procedure. If you think the model is better by following your procedure, and I'm not saying it's not, then you should be able to state it in the paper and refute any comments reviewers may have.

Bart

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Taiana Oliveira wrote:

Hi everybody,
I would like for you to clarify me abou the I/sigma value. I found articles saying that resolutions with value below 2.0 must be discarded but that for maxium likelihood methods this rule may be ignored. How to proceed? What values may be considered as limits in this case?



In my experience a value of 2.0 is conservative and seems to be used mostly to avoid arguments with reviewers. There is not a hard cutoff value but I think you're likely ok to 1.5. As the I/SigI goes down the information content gets lower but maximum likelihood shoult account for that. Check Rfree in the highest resolution shell to make sure there is at least some correlation between model and observations.

Bart

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