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I think I'll leave this as my final open post of the day as I don't want to be seen to be hogging the board - I thought my e-mail may provoke some feedback, but I wasn't prepared for the assault on my inbox since my 1st post! Our technology is nothing like the X3D technology, which was subsequently licensed and re-named as Opticality and recently changed its name again to Newsight Corporation. We use dual LCDs a combining prism and a projection system to both project images and ensure complete channel separation. Tech info is available on our site. They use a wavelength selective filter arrangement, but has the multi-view issues of the Philips (see previous posts). Again, you will see this technology at tradeshows more than on user's desks IMHO. I'm not knocking it, its apparently is selling well, I just feel that like the Philips this is not a replacement for CRT/Shutter glasses from a performance perspective. In relation to the CRT shortage/LCD replacement discussion, I would also say to you that you should not hold your breath in the wait for a fast response LCD/shutter solutions to pop up. A lot of people are mistaken in their belief that this just needs a fast response time on the LCD, in reality the way a CRT and LCD display the image (or more correctly how pixels are addressed) is radically different and so developing a LCD/Shutter glass compatible screen is, in my opinion, non-trivial and has yet to be achieved in any working solution I am aware of. So in the interim, take care of that 160Hz screen you have! In relation to your comment re the DepthQ projector, this is DMD based, not LCD, and this is why it works with shutter glasses. DMD is Texas Instruments Digital Light Projection Technology: http://focus.ti.com/dlpdmd/docs/dlpdmdhomepage.tsp?familyId=767&contentType= 15 For anyone who is interested. Stuart McKay, PhD CEO IRIS-3D Ltd James Weir Building 75 Montrose St Glasgow G1 1XJ Scotland, UK (T) +44-(0)141-548-2423 (F) +44-(0)141-552-5105 (M) +44 (0)7786 073663 http://www.iris3d.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mesters Sent: 14 September 2006 17:28 To: [email protected] Subject: [ccp4bb]: Re: [ccp4bb] Stereo / nVIDIA Quadro FX550 / 3D without glasses *** For details on how to be removed from this list visit the *** *** CCP4 home page http://www.ccp4.ac.uk *** 3D without glasses, that sounds a bit like the technology developed (?) by X3D Technology based in Jena (Germany). In front of the LCD, they placed a foil with lots of small lenses and a complicated picture has to be calculated for each frame shown! So, the resolution is not too high in the end. Nice technology, but you need the fastest Nvidia card around (expensive) and for each application (i.e. program) you need to write (or at least modify) the graphics-driver. I have seen it working under Windows-XP with Pymol (last year) and it looked really good, at least from a distance. Not sure it will work under Linux though. And you did state correctly, good multi-sync monitors (that can handle up to 160Hz) are becoming very, very rare these days! I hope ours will last for some time until regular LCDs are good enough to handle stereo (using shutter glasses!): the first active stereo LCD projector is already on the market (called DepthQ). - J. - Dima Klenchin wrote: > *** For details on how to be removed from this list visit the *** > *** CCP4 home page http://www.ccp4.ac.uk *** > > > >> >> Cant resist the urge to point out there are stereo solutions on the >> market >> that do not need shutter glasses, don't need graphics cards with >> stereo DIN >> plugs and work with any dual head graphics card that supports OpenGL. >> >> This info is, of course, of absolutely no use to those of you stuck with >> shutter-glass systems, but something to keep in mind for your next HW >> upgrade! Also, keep in mind the day will come (some of us believe in the >> near-future) when CRTs are no longer available - what will you use then? >> >> I'm biased of course and would say look first at our technology as >> the only >> commercially available zero cross-talk, UXGA resolution, glasses-free >> solution on the market. > > > Any comments on Philips' "multiview lenticular displays"? Their huge > 42" models are now commercially available in the USA and their 20" > monitors are supposed to start selling October this year: > > http://www.business-sites.philips.com/assets/Downloadablefile//2006-08-17--2 0-3D2C03-leaflet-13644.pdf > > > http://www.business-sites.philips.com/3dsolutions/products/3dscreens/index.h tml > > > http://www.actkern.info/index.php?id=339 > > Would this sort of thing work with 3D in Coot and Pymol? > > Dima > > >
