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Hi Evette,
you say that your native data set extends to 1.4 angs but you somehow
are not sure about your space group. I would have expected that you
would have enough information along the 00L reciprocal axis to decide
between a 
C222 or a C2221. Given that C2221 occurs overwhelmingly more frequently
than C222, I am wondering whether your crystal is really a C2221 cell
and whether you are missing several strong reflections along the 00L due
to your data collection.  This could especially impair the effectiveness
of your translation-function searches.

best regards,

Savvas






-----Original Message-----
From: "Radisky, Evette S.   Ph.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:50:59 -0600
Subject: [ccp4bb]: Best bet for a molecular replacement problem


Dear all,

In the past I have only ever used epmr for molecular replacement, and
have never encountered any tough cases where that didn't work.  I have
never before had to deal with multiple copies in the asymmetric unit.  I
am now struggling to solve the structure of a complex between A (a 24
kDa protein) and B (a 6.5 kDa protein).  My native data set extends to
1.4A resolution; space group is C222 or C2221.  For models, I have a
1.7A structure of A alone, and a 1.6A structure of B alone.  Unit cell
analysis suggests that there should be 2 copies of the A-B complex in
the asymmetric unit.  (Although the affinity between A and B is not that
great, and it is possible that I have crystallized A alone or B alone;
eg, there could be 3 copies of A and no B in the asymmetric unit.)

So far, epmr has failed me, and I spent the weekend reading up on Phaser
documentation and trying it out, still with no success.  For those
programs, I was trying both possible space groups, and trying to search
with both models as pieces of the complete model, as well as trying to
search with my A model alone, for 2 or 3 copies.

I am now reading up on Molrep and have started an auto MR run; I guess I
will try the DYAD option next (as mentioned in a recent posting) if the
first run doesn't give a solution.  A couple of questions about this: in
using the DYAD=D option for Molrep, how should I choose appropriate
choices for "number of peaks" variables NP, NPT, and NPTD?  And in
setting the variables refering to the model, if I am searching for A
alone, is my "fraction completeness of model" 0.8 (80% of one A-B
complex) or 0.4 (40% of the contents of the asymmetric unit)?

I would also welcome any input about these or other favorite programs
and approaches for situations like this one.  Also, I find that program
documentation often doesn't give a lot of guidance for selection of best
options and variables, so any hints on those that may be critical for my
situation would also help.

Thanks!
Evette

Evette S. Radisky, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor and Associate Consultant II
Mayo Clinic Cancer Center
Griffin Cancer Research Building, Rm 310
4500 San Pablo Road
Jacksonville, FL 32224
(904) 953-6372 (office)
(904) 953-2857 (lab)



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