It is pretty hard to decide on a space group when you have NC translation 1/2,1/2,1/2.
All h00 0k0 and 00l odd reflections will be weak

But here is one solution..
If you assume 2 molecules seperated by 1/2,1/2,1/2

Take your "harker" vector as 0.1712 0.5000 0.1674, then you would have an anom scatterer at 0.086, 0, 0.0837 fixing the y coordinate at 0. The symmetry equivalent is -0.086 0.5 -0.0837

Then the translation gives you another site at 0.586 0.5 0.5837 and -0.586 0.0 -0.5837 with the same Harker vector
And the vector between -0.086 0.5 -0.0837  and 0.586 0.5 0.5837  is
0.6712, 0.0, 0.6674 equivalent to 0.3288 0 0. 333 - your peak 3
The peak heights look rather peculiar though..

And yes - you can use an anom scatterer for phasing without knowing its atom type - the maths are more or less identical for any scatter..

 Eleanor


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Hello All,

I collected a putative 'Native' data set which processes best as primitive monoclinic. Although the beta angle is ~91 degrees the data wouldn't scale well as orthorhombic. The native patterson suggest translation NCS, while the anomalous difference Patterson indicates the presence of an anomalously scattering atom/s. Since the peaks between the two maps are related (see below) and in a 'simplified thinking' suggest that the anomalous scatterer/s each correspond to a different NCS entity. However, NCS translation of exactly half the unit cell seems a bit suspicious. Moreover, the translation peak (at v=0.5) suggest p21, while the anomalous difference peak shows up at v=0.0 suggesting p2.

On the native Patterson I get a strong (2/5 of the origin) centering peak (second) at the v=0.5 section:

GRID  60  36  84
CELL   80.0253   48.1743  113.8849   90.0000   90.8015   90.0000
ATOM1   Ano   0.0000  0.0000  0.0000       54.18  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM2   Ano   0.5000  0.5000  0.5000       20.91  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM3   Ano   0.3430  0.0000  0.3424        6.62  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM4   Ano   0.1567  0.5000  0.1592        5.36  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM5   Ano   0.3292  0.5000  0.5088        3.13  0.0 BFAC  20.0

The anomalous difference Patterson for that data shows virtually the same second and third peaks:

GRID  60  36  84
CELL   80.0253   48.1743  113.8849   90.0000   90.8015   90.0000
ATOM1   Ano   0.0000  0.0000  0.0000       37.37  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM2   Ano   0.5000  0.5000  0.5000       11.73  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM3   Ano   0.3364  0.0000  0.3361       11.44  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM4   Ano   0.1712  0.5000  0.1674        5.43  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM5   Ano   0.1895  0.0000  0.1279        3.63  0.0 BFAC  20.0
ATOM6   Ano   0.0871  0.5000  0.3585        3.51  0.0 BFAC  20.0

What is it that I'm missing?
If indeed, there is an unknown anomalous scatterer can I use it for phasing without any knowledge of its scattering factors?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks, Hay.

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Hay Dvir,         Ph.D.
Structural Biology Laboratory
The Salk Institute for Biological Sciences
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La Jolla, CA 92037 USA
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