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On Jan 10, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Marc SCHILTZ wrote:

So the criterion of atoms that should be modelled because they "are in the crystal" has now been narrowed down to atoms that should be modelled because they are "covalently connected to the rest of the protein".

If this concept is taken further, one could ask why we are not explicitly refining hydrogen atoms ? Clearly, they are quite often important for the biological function of a macromolecule. Clearly, they are in the crystal, covalently connected to the rest of the protein and we also have a pretty good idea about where they are.

But we are not refining hydrogen atoms because the experimental data does not warrant this ! (unless we got very high-resolution data). Shouldn't the same criterion apply for the refinement of disordered non-hydrogen atoms ?

Actually, hydrogens are usually taken into account, not explicitly, but as riding hydrogens.

If we always had ultra-high resolution data, we could model and refine many of the hydrogen atoms. But if the resolution of the data is limited, we don't do that, event though we know that these atoms are there. Similarly, if we had ultra-high resolution data, we could possibly model and refine many of the disordered side- chains because the low-occupancy alternate positions would probably show up in the maps. But not so if the resolution of the data is limited.

The low-occupancy conformations also often show up at lower resolution, just contour at, say, 0.3 sigma.

Anyway, I'd be perfectly willing to look at any proposed criteria that define when to omit an atom and when not. That should be an even more interesting discussion ;)

Best - MM

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