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If this approach was pushed to the extreme, it would imply that bulk solvent atoms should also be explicitly included in the PDB file, because, clearly "the atoms are in the crystal", e.g. refine hundreds of bulk solvent atoms with occupancy = 1.0 and let the B factor reflect the disorder....

The difference between the disordered water molecules you mentioned and disordered lysine side chain atoms is that the lysine side chain atoms are covalently connected to the rest of the protein. If C-beta is well defined, we have a pretty good idea about where C-gamma is and so on. Contour the 2Fo-Fc map at 0.3 sigma and you will likely see some density. Whether this is noise or signal is a matter of discussion (ask people in Tom Alber's lab), but at least refinement programs have something to base their B values on.

Likewise, the argument that disordered atoms will inflate the B factors of the ordered atoms (like James Irving mentioned) is valid the other way around too: an ordered C-beta will keep the B factor for C-gamma at bay, and so on. If the B factor is meant to reflect degree of disorder, then a mutual effect is completely desirable. However, we all know that B factors are not perfect, either.


If you can not see the atom in the electron density map, what sense does it make to report coordinates in a PDB file ?

For those who advocate omitting covalently attached atoms from the model, I would like to ask for objective, agreed-upon criteria that clearly tell me when I should omit an atom and when not.

I agree with Dirk in that there probably is no completely satisfactory solution. In any case, whatever we decide to do about 'invisible' atoms, I think we should not dumb down our models because we fear someone else might not fully understand them. With 'dumbing down', I mean omitting useful information.

Best - MM

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