Hi, I think you'll find that if you work out the contribution from f' to
the density, in most cases it's not significant relative to the RMSD.
This will be particularly true for S which of course has a low value of
f' for all commonly used wavelengths.  This must be true otherwise we
would observe these effects routinely.  The explanation must involve
some effect which is peculiar to the crystal being studied, as opposed
to being peculiar to the wavelength, and radiation damage seems the most
likely explanation (and has been unequivocally demonstrated in a number
of cases).

-- Ian 

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lijun Liu
> Sent: 05 May 2008 21:37
> To: James Holton
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Negative density around C of COO-
> 
> I believe some, may not be all, negative density may be due 
> to the choice of wavelength.  C,O and N are not so sensitive 
> to normally used wavelength (1-1.54A), but S does.  This is 
> more true when you have higher resolution and better quality 
> data.  You can estimate this by f'.
> 
> By the way, although I am not a real supporter of "radicals 
> from damage", I believe that a photo-induced (here X-ray) 
> chemical reaction is much different from a heat-induced one.  
> Low temperature is not a problem.  But this not for 
> diffusion, as it is ~100% heat-related.  Please point out if 
> I am wrong. 
> 
>       This "assignment" of free radicals to damage is often 
> made (flippantly) in the literature, but I feel a strong need 
> to point out that there is NO EVIDENCE of a free radical 
> diffusion mechanism for radiation damage below ~130K. 
> 
> 
> Lijun Liu, PhD
> Institute of Molecular Biology
> HHMI & Department of Physics
> University of Oregon
> Eugene, OR 97403
> 541-346-4080
> 
> 
> 


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