OK you're right, this is a bug in reindexing merged MTZ files relative to a reference file (unmerged files are OK)

I've fixed this in version 1.3.8 available from our ftp site 
ftp.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/pub/pre/

pointless-1.3.8.tar.gz    source
pointless-1.3.8.linux      Linux executable
pointless-1.3.8.osxi86   OSX executable

My apologies for this - I should have spotted the problem a long time ago

Phil

On 6 May 2009, at 23:17, Robert Nolte wrote:

Phil,
I tried the version with 6.11, as well as the latest prebuilt version I could find on your site, 1.3.2. Both of them have the same behavior. The mtz file has F's in it. I get the same error when I try the I's from Truncate, and the original scalepack2mtz I's. However, if instead of using hklin with a MTZ file, I use scain with the scalepack file, the program functions as I think should. Thanks for looking into the problem.
   Bob Nolte

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Evans <[email protected]>
Sent: May 6, 2009 5:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] pointless question

I think Pointless 1.2.23 was a broken version which escaped to the
wild in CCP4 release 6.1.0. The more recent release 6.1.1 has a fixed
version, and some more recent versions are also available from our ftp
site

eg ftp://ftp.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/pub/pre/pointless-1.3.2...

sorry about this

Phil


On 6 May 2009, at 19:21, Robert Nolte wrote:

I'm hoping someone can help me with a pointless problem.  I am
trying to reindex
data into an orientation that I used to solve the structure
initially.  While
I can get pointless to give me the reindexing needed to make the new
data match
the old data for the project, when I ask it to write the data to
HKLOUT it does
not carry out the reindexing. I was under the impression from the
documentation
it would write out the reindexed solution.  Am I doing something
wrong or have
I found a bug in my particular space group. I seem to recall getting
this to work
on a different project in the past.  I have also tried a number of
different
versions of pointless, and all give me the same results. The output
file is shown below.
Thanks in advance for any help.
        Regards,
        Bob Nolte


-> pointless hklin input.mtz  hklref reference.mtz hklout
reindex.mtz >& pointless.log

contents of pointless.log

###############################################################
### CCP4 6.1: POINTLESS             version 1.2.23 : 26/09/08##
###############################################################
User: unknown  Run date: 28/ 4/2009 Run time: 13:48:05


Please reference: Collaborative Computational Project, Number 4. 1994.
"The CCP4 Suite: Programs for Protein Crystallography". Acta Cryst.
D50, 760-763.
as well as any specific reference in the program write-up.

OS type:      linux
Release Date: 26th September 2008


     ******************************************************
     *                                                    *
     *                     POINTLESS                      *
     *                       1.2.23                       *
     *                                                    *
     *   Determine Laue group from unmerged intensities   *
     *     Phil Evans MRC LMB, Cambridge                  *
     * Uses cctbx routines by Ralf Grosse-Kunstleve et al.*
     *                                                    *
     ******************************************************


---------------------------------------------------------------

Reading reference data set from file reference.mtz
Maximum resolution in file reference.mtz:    1.810
Columns for F, sigF (squared to I): F_881  SIGF_881
Number of valid observations read:    18733
Highest resolution:     1.81
Unit cell:   72.66    72.66    65.98    90.00    90.00   120.00
   Space group: P 3 2 1

Spacegroup information obtained from library file:
Logical Name: SYMINFO   Filename: /apps/ccp4/ccp4-6.1.0/lib/data/
syminfo.lib

Maximum resolution in file input.mtz:    1.870
Columns for F, sigF (squared to I): F_880  SIGF_880
Number of valid observations read:    17028
Highest resolution:     1.87
Unit cell:   72.58    72.58    66.20    90.00    90.00   120.00
   Space group: P 3 2 1

Possible alternative indexing schemes
Operators labelled "exact" are exact by symmetry
For inexact options, deviations are from original cell
   (root mean square deviation between base vectors)
Maximum accepted RMS deviation between test and reference cells
(TOLERANCE) =  2.0

                            [h,k,l]    exact
                          [-h,-k,l]    exact

Normalising reference dataset

Log(<I>) fit for intensity normalisation: B (slope)     -18.82

Normalising test dataset

Log(<I>) fit for intensity normalisation: B (slope)     -18.21

Alternative indexing relative to reference file reference.mtz

$TEXT:Result:$$ $$

 Alternative reindexing           CC     R(E^2)    Number
Cell_deviation
         [-h,-k,l]              0.967    0.092     17012      0.14
          [h,k,l]               0.067    0.495     17011      0.14
$$

===============================================================

Copying merged MTZ file from input.mtz
                       to reindex.mtz

Reindexing operator         [h,k,l]

Real space transformation   (x,y,z)

Reindexed space group : P 3 2 1
Crystal: HKL_base
Cell:   72.58  72.58   66.2        90     90    120
Crystal: unknown
Cell:   72.58  72.58   66.2        90     90    120

17080 reflections copied to output file

$TEXT:Reference: $$ Please reference $$
P.R.Evans, 'Scaling and assessment  of data quality' Acta Cryst.
D62, 72-82  (2005).
$$

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