Hi Gerard,

Interesting - isn't it the case that for Arg, the the NH1 and NH2 atoms are chemically distinguishable and the convention is unambiguous (NH1 cis to CD and NH2 trans, if I recall correctly).

The truly symmetric sidechains of Asp, Glu, Tyr, Phe, and the pseudosymmetric sidechains of Asn, Gln and His are more straightforward, but for Arg I would have thought quite a strong case would have to be made for ignoring the convention for RMSD purposes. Put differently, I find it hard to envision a scenario where swapping the names of NH1 and NH2 for the purposes of an RMSD would be useful. Would one also not have to include NE in the redundancy?

Cheers,
Charlie

Gerard DVD Kleywegt wrote:
Is there any convention to define the order of the two terminal nitrogens (NH1 and NH2) of the arginine side chain. For example, should the name NH1 be assigned to the nitrogen that is in trans position with respect to the CD carbon, and NH2 to the nitrogen in cis (or viceversa)?

Yes there is a convention. Programs such as LSQMAN (http://xray.bmc.uu.se/usf/lsqman_man.html#S32) and WhatCheck can detect/fix these for you. This is something you would normally do at the end of your refinement. When you compare two models using all atoms, it's not so important that you use the correct convention but rather the one that gives the smallest RMSD (as the atoms are chemically indistinguishable). See: http://xray.bmc.uu.se/usf/lsqman_man.html#S33

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