Check your mosflm input file. If this is an "ADSC" type detector and you have specified that it is (using "DETECTOR TYPE ADSC" or "SCANNER TYPE ADSC"), but have not explicitly specified the overload limit with "OVERLOAD CUTOFF", then the default overload cutoff for integration will be 100,000, and this effectively turns off overload detection. Note that there are TWO different overload cutoffs in mosflm, but both are listed in the log next to the string "(CUTOFF)".

I only discovered this myself a few weeks ago, and I have patched the current Elves release:
http://bl831.als.lbl.gov/~jamesh/elves/download.html
to avoid this problem when they run mosflm, but versions from the last two years may actually miss overloads!

-James Holton
MAD Scientist

Simon Kolstoe wrote:
Thanks Tim, Phil and Andrew for your answers.

Just one further related question:

Why is it that mosflm seems to report higher completeness than XDS on the same data (I've seen this on about 50 datasets)? I always thought it was due to mosflms peak extrapolation but it seems this isn't the answer if SCALA throws those reflections out.

Thanks,

Simon

On 7 Jun 2010, at 15:35, Phil Evans wrote:

Mosflm integrates them (profile-fitted overloads) but flags them. Pointless uses them for systematic absence tests. Scala by default ignores them, but you can include them if you want: this is not normally recommended since they are pretty inaccurate (look in the "Excluded data" tab of ccp4i/Scala)

If you are merging strong & weak datasets it should do the right thing, I think.

Phil


On 7 Jun 2010, at 15:09, Simon Kolstoe wrote:

Dear CCP4bb,

I was wondering if someone could tell me how mosflm and scala deal with overloaded reflections. From my understanding mosflm extrapolates the overloaded peaks but then scala throws them out completely - is this right?

If so am I right to not worry about "contamination" from extrapolated peaks when combining high and low resolution datasets from the same crystal?

Thanks

Simon

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