Hi,

Thanks for reminding me checking the mask. I think their might be
something wrong with the mask, since when DM read in the mask, it says:


           Number of columns, rows, sections ...............   84   74   69
           Map mode ........................................    0
           Start and stop points on columns, rows, sections   -53   30  
80  153   -4   64
           Grid sampling on x, y, z ........................  136  260  150
           Cell dimensions ................................. 135.57100
260.11200 150.20000  90.00000 101.14000  90.00000
           Fast, medium, slow axes .........................    Z    X    Y
           Minimum density .................................     0.00000
           Maximum density .................................     0.00000
           Mean density ....................................     0.00000
           Rms deviation from mean density .................     0.00000
           Space-group .....................................    4
           Number of titles ................................    1


It seems the mask is just null. However, I converted it to a map file, and
coot clearly showed the mask, so I am not sure why the null mask was found
by DM. Moreover, the NCS CCs are just 0s for the mask.

Anyway, following is my NCSMASK script I used to generate the above mask,
where XYZIN is the reorganized pdb containing only a single fixed NCS unit
(chain A). and all the operations were generated by LSQKAB with Chain A
mapped to other chains. Not sure whether there is something wrong here or
not...

ncsmask xyzin ${PDB}_A.pdb mskout ${PDB}.msk << eof
SYMM P1211
EXPAND 1.0
OVERLAP 3
AVERAGE 12
#Identical
  ROTA MATRIX 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
  TRAN 0.0 0.0 0.0
#A>C
  ROTA MATRIX -0.22748  0.97259  0.04813 -0.97372 -0.22662 -0.02273
-0.01120 -0.05203  0.99858
  TRAN  101.46837    81.74413     2.89341
#A>D
  ROTA MATRIX -0.90337  0.42792  0.02831 -0.42883 -0.90066 -0.07011
-0.00451 -0.07547  0.99714
  TRAN   158.03317    36.91842     3.25853
#A>F
  ROTA MATRIX -0.21272 -0.97702  0.01352 0.97675 -0.21300 -0.02424 0.02657
 0.00805  0.99961
  TRAN   100.69797   -81.01860    -1.71365
#A>G
  ROTA MATRIX 0.61704 -0.78687 -0.01005 0.78590  0.61553  0.05899 -0.04023
-0.04429  0.99821
  TRAN   32.50667   -65.76570     7.05504
#A>H
  ROTA MATRIX -0.85814 -0.51116 -0.04813 -0.51290  0.85771  0.03558
0.02310  0.05522 -0.99821
  TRAN   156.14981    42.23873    48.93406
#A>I
  ROTA MATRIX -0.13703 -0.98975 -0.04032 -0.99048  0.13635  0.01902
-0.01332  0.04254 -0.99901
  TRAN  95.97630    82.30948    52.82510
#A>J
  ROTA MATRIX 0.69662 -0.71695 -0.02645 -0.71716 -0.69691  0.00230
-0.02008  0.01737 -0.99965
  TRAN   25.84588    59.76286    53.68224
#A>K
  ROTA MATRIX 0.99467  0.10258 -0.01072 0.10259 -0.99472  0.00088 -0.01057
-0.00197 -0.99994
  TRAN    0.47215    -8.86082    52.78315
#A>L
  ROTA MATRIX 0.55782  0.82946  0.02875 0.82987 -0.55793 -0.00466 0.01218 
0.02646 -0.99958
  TRAN   36.68436   -68.63833    49.21587
#A>M
  ROTA MATRIX -0.30892  0.95102 -0.01113 0.95109  0.30890 -0.00370
-0.00008 -0.01173 -0.99993
  TRAN   109.48987   -79.05550    52.39334
#A>N
  ROTA MATRIX -0.93676  0.34855 -0.03147 0.34600  0.93589  0.06627 0.05255
 0.05119 -0.99731
  TRAN   162.32979   -29.26800    45.41564
eof


> The commonest error with averaging is getting the mask wrong.
> Check that the CCs after application of the averaging start at a
> reasonable value - 0.3 at least and increase with each cycle ( by the
> way why do ncycle 1?)
>
> But in the end the density will not be identical, the Fobs are not
> perfectly symmetric so there will be differences. The best idea is to
> average (with correct matrices - I always find that takes several pases
> before I get them all right - then build molecule A and refit it over
> the others before starting refinement.
>
>   EleanorHailiang Zhang wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am using the following DM script to perform a NCS averaging. I have a
>> fundemental question: after NCS averaging, are the density distrubitions
>> of different NCS unit being averaged supposed to be the same? I found
>> they
>> are different by checking FCDM/PHICDM, and maybe I am wrong somewhere...
>>
>>
>> dm NCSIN ${PDB}.msk HKLIN ${PDBALL}.mtz HKLOUT ${PDBALL}-dm.mtz \
>> <<dmtest
>>    mode AVER
>>    ncycle 1
>>    combine PERT
>>    scheme ALL
>>    solc 0.6213
>> #Identical
>>   AVER REFI
>>   NCSMASK NMER 1
>>   ROTA MATRIX 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
>>   TRAN 0.0 0.0 0.0
>> #A>C
>>   AVER REFI
>>   NCSMASK NMER 1
>>   ROTA MATRIX -0.22748  0.97259  0.04813 -0.97372 -0.22662 -0.02273
>> -0.01120 -0.05203  0.99858
>>   TRAN  101.46837    81.74413     2.89341
>> #A>D
>>   AVER REFI
>>   NCSMASK NMER 1
>>   ROTA MATRIX -0.90337  0.42792  0.02831 -0.42883 -0.90066 -0.07011
>> -0.00451 -0.07547  0.99714
>>   TRAN   158.03317    36.91842     3.25853
>> #A>F
>>   AVER REFI
>>   NCSMASK NMER 1
>>   ROTA MATRIX -0.21272 -0.97702  0.01352 0.97675 -0.21300 -0.02424
>> 0.02657
>>  0.00805  0.99961
>>   TRAN   100.69797   -81.01860    -1.71365
>> #A>G
>>   AVER REFI
>>   NCSMASK NMER 1
>>   ROTA MATRIX 0.61704 -0.78687 -0.01005 0.78590  0.61553  0.05899
>> -0.04023
>> -0.04429  0.99821
>>   TRAN   32.50667   -65.76570     7.05504
>> #A>H
>>   AVER REFI
>>   NCSMASK NMER 1
>>   ROTA MATRIX -0.85814 -0.51116 -0.04813 -0.51290  0.85771  0.03558
>> 0.02310  0.05522 -0.99821
>>   TRAN   156.14981    42.23873    48.93406
>> #A>I
>>   AVER REFI
>>   NCSMASK NMER 1
>>   ROTA MATRIX -0.13703 -0.98975 -0.04032 -0.99048  0.13635  0.01902
>> -0.01332  0.04254 -0.99901
>>   TRAN  95.97630    82.30948    52.82510
>> #A>J
>>   AVER REFI
>>   NCSMASK NMER 1
>>   ROTA MATRIX 0.69662 -0.71695 -0.02645 -0.71716 -0.69691  0.00230
>> -0.02008  0.01737 -0.99965
>>   TRAN   25.84588    59.76286    53.68224
>> #A>K
>>   AVER REFI
>>   NCSMASK NMER 1
>>   ROTA MATRIX 0.99467  0.10258 -0.01072 0.10259 -0.99472  0.00088
>> -0.01057
>> -0.00197 -0.99994
>>   TRAN    0.47215    -8.86082    52.78315
>> #A>L
>>   AVER REFI
>>   NCSMASK NMER 1
>>   ROTA MATRIX 0.55782  0.82946  0.02875 0.82987 -0.55793 -0.00466
>> 0.01218
>> 0.02646 -0.99958
>>   TRAN   36.68436   -68.63833    49.21587
>> #A>M
>>   AVER REFI
>>   NCSMASK NMER 1
>>   ROTA MATRIX -0.30892  0.95102 -0.01113 0.95109  0.30890 -0.00370
>> -0.00008 -0.01173 -0.99993
>>   TRAN   109.48987   -79.05550    52.39334
>> #A>N
>>   AVER REFI
>>   NCSMASK NMER 1
>>   ROTA MATRIX -0.93676  0.34855 -0.03147 0.34600  0.93589  0.06627
>> 0.05255
>>  0.05119 -0.99731
>>   TRAN   162.32979   -29.26800    45.41564
>>    LABIN FP = FWT PHIO = PHIC  FOMO = WCMB
>>    LABOUT  FDM=FDM PHIDM=PHIDM FOMDM=FOMDM FCDM=FCDM PHICDM=PHICDM
>>    END
>> dmtest
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