Dirk,

- Imagine a (not very uncommon, unfortunately) situation when someone obtains the final model and Fcalc, and then, right before the PDB deposition does a final check in Coot, and moves/removes a few atoms (a few waters, or instance) here and there. Or may be does a real-space fit of a residue. Or removes H, if present. Or renames a ligand by request of PDB staff and accidentally change an atom parameter(s). All this in turn will invalidate the R-factors and make previously calculated Fcalc inconsistent with such a manipulated model. So, the bottom-line is: having a model that you can use to reproduce the reported statistics is important (for validation and database sanity at least, if someones believe that such a minor things wouldn't impair the biological interpretation - "ultimate goal of protein structures").
but this is exactly what one shouldn't do: manipulate the structure after the final refinement! And if you manipulate it for a good reason, do a "last final" refinement after that, before depositing coordinates and structure factors. Then, there will be no problems, as far as I can see.

I apology if what I wrote doesn't read clearly - this is exactly what I'm saying: in this particular reply and across the whole discussion. Note, I used the word "unfortunately" above. Anyway, saying it again: What I mentioned is based on my (and not only my - see relevant papers) observation running validation tools through the whole PDB and making note of such manipulated structure. It is a matter of fact that there are some intentionally or unintentionally manipulated models, it is very bad, it is unfortunate and obviously I'm strictly against it. I'm against it to a such a degree so even didn't bother to write a paper on this matter, which I mentioned on this thread already:

J. Appl. Cryst. 2010, 43, 669-67.

Therefore it is important to have a model that you can use to reproduce the reported statistics (for validation, at least), although having Fcalc around wouldn't hurt.

Sorry again, if I wasn't clear in my previous reply.

All the best!
Pavel.

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