Maybe article submissions could just contain the pubmed ID for references, then everything would be pretty simple, no? The journal could format it as it sees fit, and there would only be errors if there were errors in pubmed. I guess books are trickier, but most references are articles anyway.
JPK On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Clemens Steegborn <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Bert, > > rReferences in Science do NOT contain article titles, like in quite a number > of other journals (e.g. JBC, just to mention one of them) … > > and I agree that it’s a pain to find out whether a reference is really of > interest to you – but I also agree that it’s so much more convenient > > for the journals that we won’t be able to change it … > > Best > > Clemens > > > > > > Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Van > Den Berg, Bert > Gesendet: Monday, November 22, 2010 3:45 PM > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] Citations in supplementary material > > > > ?? I don’t know if I understand the question, but don’t most journals have > references that do include the article titles? > Science, Nature, Cell, NSMB, PNAS, JMB, Structure all have references > titles....as they should. > > Bert > > > On 11/22/10 9:35 AM, "John R Helliwell" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Jacob, > Additional content, like article titles, whether print or online, need > to be checked properly for accuracy. > Article titles (if supplied by authors) can often need heavy checking, > and online systems to check > bibliographic information are not always reliable or comprehensive. > This I think explains the paucity of > article titles coverage in references lists of many/most Journals. > Best wishes, > John > > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Jacob Keller > <[email protected]> wrote: >> It seems to me that this problem is really a hold-over from compromise >> with the exigencies of hard-copy publishing, i.e. a way to save >> physical space. Further, there seem to be many aspects of >> e-publication that have not adapted to the strengths/weaknesses of the >> new medium, which could and should be remedied. One aspect is citation >> format--why not capitalize on the luxury of having plenty of space? >> Maybe even the abstracts could be included (why not?). Another thing I >> mentioned in a previous email: why not remove length limitations? Let >> the authors have the space they need to say what needs to be said! I >> think EMBO actually espouses this idea, although I am not sure how far >> they would go (I am pretty sure they do not limit number of >> references, for example.) Anyway, it seems to be an interesting and >> historical time in the publishing world. >> >> JPK >> >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Francois Berenger <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> For me the citation format is also a major problem. >>> >>> When the title of the paper is not shown, it really hinders the work >>> of trying to find which references are worthwhile reading. >>> I think it may even have a negative impact on the number of citations >>> a paper get. >>> >>> I don't know if it has been solved in recent issues of IUCr journals, >>> so please forgive me if this is an old and dead topic. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Francois. >>> >> > > > > -- > Professor John R Helliwell DSc > >
