Hi Bert,

here is one anecdotal evidence: a couple of years ago, I had one real in-house 3 A data set from a crystal after a quick iodide soak and processed the images with denzo/scalepack, mosflm/scala and xds/xscale. I got lower Rsym, higher I/sig(I) and better anomalous signal with xds. More importantly, I could solve the iodide substructure easily with SHELXC/D at different high resolution limits up to 3.5 A with the xds data set. For the other data sets, I had to cut the higher resolution limit down to 4-5 A, and there were fewer solutions for the substructure.

Best regards,

Dirk.

Am 28.01.11 14:37, schrieb Van Den Berg, Bert:
I have heard this before. I'm wondering though, does anybody know of a systematic study where different data processing programs are compared with real-life, non-lysozyme data?

Bert


On 1/28/11 7:58 AM, "Bosch, Juergen" <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was a bit reductive with my statement (iPhone....)
    The equation below is suppose to read:
    If you have bad data, then you need to process with XDS in order
    to get the maximum out of your data.

    Thanks Tim,

    Jürgen

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    Jürgen Bosch
    Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
    Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
    Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
    615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
    Baltimore, MD 21205
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    On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Tim Gruene wrote:

        Dear Jürgen,

        is this an assignment operator or an equal sign? For if it's
        the latter it could
        read that the result of processing data with XDS are bad data,
        which is rather
        rude and probably not what you meant.

        Tim

        On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 06:55:43AM -0500, Jürgen Bosch wrote:

            Bad data = processing with XDS

            Jürgen

            ......................
            Jürgen Bosch
            Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
            Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
            Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
            615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
            Baltimore, MD 21205
            Phone: +1-410-614-4742
            Lab:      +1-410-614-4894
            Fax:      +1-410-955-3655
            http://web.mac.com/bosch_lab/

            On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:46, José Trincão
            <[email protected]> wrote:

                Hello all,
                I have been trying to squeeze the most out of a bad
                data set (P1, anisotropic, crystals not reproducible).
                I had very incomplete data due to high mosaicity and
                lots of overlaps. The completeness was about 80%
                overall to ~3A. Yesterday I noticed that I could
                process the data much better fixing the mosaicity to
                0.5 in imosflm. I got about 95% complete up to 2.5A
                but with a multiplicity of 1.7. I tried to integrate
                the same data fixing the mosaicity at different values
                ranging from 0.2 to 0.6 and saw the trend in
                completeness, Rmerge and multiplicity.
                Now, is there any reason why I should not just merge
                all these together and feed them to scala in order to
                increase multiplicity?
                Am I missing something?

                Thanks for any comments!

                Jose


                José Trincão, PhD    CQFB@FCT-UNL
                2829-516 Caparica, Portugal

                "It's very hard to make predictions... especially
                about the future" - Niels Bohr


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