Hi all,

I have a large disordered loop (33aa) for a 2.0 Å dataset for which the rest of 
the structure is well-defined, and phases are decent (Rwork=19.6, Rfree=24.6). 
I can see some broken up density at one end, but have been unable to 
convincingly build into into this region manually. I would like to try arp/warp 
to improve density or possibly extend the loop termini but have been thwarted 
by some technical problems and would appreciate any advice. I've installed ccp4 
6.2.0 on Mac OS X (10.6.8) with fink, both as 32-bit and 64-bit to allow me to 
run ARP/wARP (version 7.1) from the ccp4i GUI. I've been unable to get "loopy" 
to work, and also the standard ARP/wARP classic.

When I run "ARP/wARP Loops"  (a.k.a. loopy), I get the message in the log file: 
 "Couldn't find any loop to build, loopy will simple copy the pdb file". The 
program is able to read the sequence .pir file and match it to the structure, 
and seems from the sequence alignment to identify the regions of the sequence 
for which there is no structure. I'm guessing that I'm not putting some obvious 
parameter into the GUI/starting script, but I don't know what that might be. 
The script generated from the GUI (21_loopy.def) is pasted below.

When I try to run ARP/wARP classic for loop building, I get the following 
message in the logfile:

QUITTING ... ARP/wARP module stopped with an error message:
REFMAC
*** Look for error message in the file:
/Users/gbowman/Greg/20_warpNtrace_refine.last.log

At the end of the warpNtrace_refine.last.log file, the program reports what 
seem to be close contacts. Since I don't see this in the structure, and don't 
have any problems or errors like this when I refine the structure with REMAC, 
is this from rebuilding, and is this the problem that halts REFMAC?

Thanks!
Greg

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20_warpNtrace_refine.last.log
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<snip>
 Input file :restraints.pdb
  NUMBER OF MONOMERS IN THE LIBRARY          : 11465
                with complete description    : 11465
  NUMBER OF MODIFICATIONS                    :    53
  NUMBER OF LINKS                            :    66
  I am reading libraries. Please wait.
      - energy parameters
      - monomer"s description (links & mod )
<B><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><!--SUMMARY_BEGIN-->
<!--SUMMARY_END--></FONT></B>
  Number of atoms    :    2463
  Number of residues :     859
  Number of chains   :       3
  I am reading library. Please wait.
                mon_lib.cif
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.907 ideal_dist=   1.432
            ch:AA   res:   8  GLY      at:CA  .->ch:AA   res:  50  TYR      
at:OH  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   2.126 ideal_dist=   1.645
            ch:AA   res:  13  ARG      at:NH1 .->ch:AA   res:  54  MET      
at:SD  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.820 ideal_dist=   1.462
            ch:AA   res:  13  ARG      at:NH1 .->ch:AA   res:  54  MET      
at:CE  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.757 ideal_dist=   1.395
            ch:AA   res:  13  ARG      at:NE  .->ch:AA   res: 119  PHE      
at:CD1 .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.572 ideal_dist=   1.462
            ch:AA   res:  13  ARG      at:NH2 .->ch:AA   res: 125  LEU      
at:CD2 .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.751 ideal_dist=   1.513
            ch:AA   res:  33  ILE      at:CG2 .->ch:AA   res:  39  PRO      
at:CG  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.451 ideal_dist=   1.513
            ch:AA   res:  33  ILE      at:CG2 .->ch:AA   res:  39  PRO      
at:CD  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.759 ideal_dist=   1.524
            ch:AA   res:  58  LYS      at:CD  .->ch:AA   res: 130  LEU      
at:CB  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.725 ideal_dist=   1.513
            ch:AA   res:  58  LYS      at:CD  .->ch:AA   res: 130  LEU      
at:CD1 .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.578 ideal_dist=   1.524
            ch:AA   res:  83  ARG      at:CD  .->ch:AA   res: 101  PRO      
at:CG  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.843 ideal_dist=   1.457
            ch:AA   res:  83  ARG      at:NE  .->ch:AA   res: 101  PRO      
at:CB  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   0.666 ideal_dist=   1.457
            ch:AA   res:  83  ARG      at:NE  .->ch:AA   res: 101  PRO      
at:CG  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.275 ideal_dist=   1.510
            ch:AA   res:  83  ARG      at:CZ  .->ch:AA   res: 101  PRO      
at:CB  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.102 ideal_dist=   1.510
            ch:AA   res:  83  ARG      at:CZ  .->ch:AA   res: 101  PRO      
at:CG  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.191 ideal_dist=   1.457
            ch:AA   res:  83  ARG      at:NH1 .->ch:AA   res: 101  PRO      
at:CA  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   0.690 ideal_dist=   1.457
            ch:AA   res:  83  ARG      at:NH1 .->ch:AA   res: 101  PRO      
at:CB  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.891 ideal_dist=   1.457
            ch:AA   res:  83  ARG      at:NH1 .->ch:AA   res: 101  PRO      
at:CG  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.352 ideal_dist=   1.457
            ch:AA   res: 165  VAL      at:CG1 .->ch:AA   res: 172  TRP      
at:CZ3 .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.440 ideal_dist=   1.457
            ch:AA   res: 165  VAL      at:CG1 .->ch:AA   res: 172  TRP      
at:CE3 .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.367 ideal_dist=   1.320
            ch:AA   res: 172  TRP      at:CD1 .->ch:AA   res: 176  GLU      
at:OE1 .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.447 ideal_dist=   1.275
            ch:AA   res: 172  TRP      at:NE1 .->ch:AA   res: 176  GLU      
at:OE1 .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.760 ideal_dist=   1.360
            ch:AA   res: 172  TRP      at:CH2 .->ch:AA   res: 253  ARG      
at:CZ  .
  INFO:     link is found (not be used) dist=   1.690 ideal_dist=   1.309
            ch:AA   res: 187  TYR      at:OH  .->ch:AA   res: 198  ASP      
at:OD2 .
  --------------------------------
  --- title of input coord file ---

  PDB_code:xxxx
  PDB_name:----
  PDB_date:XX-XXX-XX
  --------------------------------
  Number of chains                  :       3
  Total number of monomers          :     859
  Number of atoms                   :    2463
  Number of missing atoms           :       0
  Number of rebuilt atoms           :       0
  Number of unknown atoms           :       0
  Number of deleted atoms           :       0

  Number of bonds restraints    :    1863
  Number of angles restraints   :    2492
  Number of torsions restraints :    1286
  Number of chiralities         :     266
  Number of planar groups       :     318


 loop_
     _atom_type_symbol
     _atom_type_scat_Cromer_Mann_a1
     _atom_type_scat_Cromer_Mann_b1
     _atom_type_scat_Cromer_Mann_a2
     _atom_type_scat_Cromer_Mann_b2
     _atom_type_scat_Cromer_Mann_a3
     _atom_type_scat_Cromer_Mann_b3
     _atom_type_scat_Cromer_Mann_a4
     _atom_type_scat_Cromer_Mann_b4
     _atom_type_scat_Cromer_Mann_c


  N     12.2126   0.0057   3.1322   9.8933   2.0125  28.9975   1.1663   0.5826 
-11.5290
  C      2.3100  20.8439   1.0200  10.2075   1.5886   0.5687   0.8650  51.6512  
 0.2156
  S      6.9053   1.4679   5.2034  22.2151   1.4379   0.2536   1.5863  56.1720  
 1.0496
  O      3.0485  13.2771   2.2868   5.7011   1.5463   0.3239   0.8670  32.9089  
 0.2508
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21_loopy.def
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#CCP4I VERSION CCP4Interface 2.1.0
#CCP4I SCRIPT DEF loopy
#CCP4I DATE 25 Aug 2011  08:17:34
#CCP4I USER gbowman
#CCP4I JOB_ID 21
#CCP4I PROJECT GDB210i
#CCP4I TASKNAME loopy
#CCP4I LOG_FILE 21_loopy.log
#CCP4I EDIT_SCRIPT 0
#CCP4I HTML_LOG 0
#CCP4I REMOTE 0
#CCP4I SERVER_HOST localhost
#CCP4I SERVER_PORT 4441
#CCP4I DATABASE_SERVER 0
#CCP4I DATABASE_SERVER_HOST localhost
#CCP4I DATABASE_SERVER_PORT 0

ABORT_LEVEL               8
ATOM_RADIUS               0.74
B_FACTOR                  20
B_FACTOR_SIDE_CHAIN       26
CA_DISTANCE               3.8
CA_DISTANCE_ERROR         0.3
CELL_1                    38.670
CELL_2                    61.426
CELL_3                    76.771
CELL_4                    90.00
CELL_5                    104.17
CELL_6                    90.00
CHECK_FIRST_ANGLE         1
C_ANCHOR                  "A 1213"
DIR_EXT_MAP_FILENAME      TEMPORARY
DIR_LOOPFIT_EXE_FILENAME  "Full path.."
DIR_LOOPFIT_LOG_FILENAME  TEMPORARY
DIR_MAP_FILENAME          GDB210i
DIR_MAP_FROM_MTZ          TEMPORARY
DIR_MESSAGE_FILENAME      GDB210i
DIR_MTZ_FILENAME          GDB210i
DIR_OUTPUT_PDB            GDB210i
DIR_PDB_INPUT_FILENAME    GDB210i
DIR_PRELOOPFIT_PDB        TEMPORARY
DIR_SAVE_LOOP_NAME        GDB210i
DIR_SAVE_PROP_PDB         GDB210i
DIR_SEQIN,0               ""
DIR_SEQIN,1               GDB210i
DIR_STRUCTURE_TO_C        "Full path.."
DIR_STRUCTURE_TO_N        "Full path.."
DIR_XML_MESSAGE_FILENAME  GDB210i
DUMMY_REMOVAL_THRESHOLD   0.1
EXTEND_GAP_SMALLER_THAN   5
EXTEND_REFINEMENT         0
EXT_MAP_FILENAME          ""
F1                        FWT
FITTARGET                 1
FORCE_MIN_CAS_KEPT        1
GRID_NUMBER               378
GRID_TYPE                 0
INCLUDE_ALL               1
INCLUDE_CHAINS            ""
KEEP_NEG_DENS_HALFWAY     0
LIKELIHOOD_THRESHOLD      -5
LOOPFIT_EXE_FILENAME      
/Users/gbowman/Greg/arp_warp_7.1/bin/bin-i386-Darwin/loopfit
LOOPFIT_LOG_FILENAME      loopfit.log
LOOPS_TO_BUILD            A1213(33)A1245
LOOP_BOTH_WAYS            1
LOOP_DENSITY_CUTOFF_NO    100
LOOP_LENGTH               33
LOOP_MAIN_CHAIN_DENS_NO   12
LOOP_OVERLAP              0
LOOP_RMS                  0.5
LOOP_SEQUENCE             ""
LOOP_STRUCTURE_CUTOFF_NO  -1
LOOP_STRUCTURE_MIN_NO     0
LOOP_STRUCTURE_THRESHOLD  -7
LOOP_TO_C                 1
MAP_FILENAME              ""
MAP_FROM_MTZ              160BDNAmerged2011aug09_loopy2.map
MAP_INPUT_MODE            MTZ
MAX_DISTANCE_BETWEEN_ANCHORS -1.
MAX_LOOPS_AFTER_MC_PLANE  50
MAX_LOOP_LENGTH           15
MAX_NO_CAS_KEPT           5
MESSAGE_FILENAME          loopy.msg
MESSAGE_LEVEL             5
MET_IS_SEL,0              0
MET_IS_SEL,1              0
MINIMAL_DISTANCE          0.45
MODE_LOOPY                0
MTZ_FILENAME              160BDNAmerged2011aug09_refmacGDB210i-215.mtz
NMOL,0                    1
NMOL,1                    1
NRES,0                    ""
NRES,1                    272
NRESMOL,0                 ""
NRESMOL,1                 272
NSEQFILES                 1
N_ANCHOR                  "A 1245"
OUTPUT_PDB                2011aug24-GDB210i-renameDNA-3_loopy1.pdb
OVERLAP_REMOVAL_THRESHOLD 0.1
PDB_INPUT_FILENAME        2011aug24-GDB210i-renameDNA-3_refmac1b.pdb
PHI                       PHWT
PRELOOPFIT_PDB            pre_loopfit.pdb
REFINEMENT                1
REMOVAL_FACTOR            1.
SAVE_BEST_NUMBER          2
SAVE_LOOPS                1
SAVE_LOOP_BASENAME        2011aug24-GDB210i-renameDNA-3_loop
SAVE_LOOP_DIR             /Users/gbowman/Greg
SAVE_LOOP_NAME            2011aug24-GDB210i-renameDNA-3_loop1.pdb
SAVE_LOOP_PROP_BASE       2011aug24-GDB210i-renameDNA-3_proposed
SAVE_LOOP_PROP_DIR        /Users/gbowman/Greg
SAVE_PROP_PDB             2011aug24-GDB210i-renameDNA-3_proposed1.pdb
SEQIN,0                   ""
SEQIN,1                   160B.pir
SHELL_THICKNESS           1
SHOW_DETAILS_DENSITY      0
SHOW_DETAILS_LIKELIHOOD   0
SHOW_PRUNING_DETAILS      0
SPACEGROUP                P21
SPACEGROUP_NUMBER         4
STRUCTURE_TO_C            
/Users/gbowman/Greg/arp_warp_7.1/bin/bin-i386-Darwin/set_1200_2C_my_0.3b_cos_log.llh
STRUCTURE_TO_N            
/Users/gbowman/Greg/arp_warp_7.1/bin/bin-i386-Darwin/set_1200_2N_my_0.3b_cos_log.llh
TITLE                     "build 1213 loop with loopy"
USER_SETTING_MAX_NO_CAS   0
USE_PIR_FILE              1
WEIGHT_DENSITY            1.
WEIGHT_DISTANCE           1.
WEIGHT_STRUCTURE          1.
XML_MESSAGE_FILENAME      loopy.xml

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