Herman,

I don't know which early days you refer to, but from late 80s until structural 
genomics era there were relatively few crystallization reports. May be I didn't 
see them, and then I apologize. But crystallization reports in large started in 
late 90s through early 21st century and Acta F has been created to accommodate 
them. As far as my understanding goes, you publish crystallization results only 
if you're sure the structure will be solved or is already solved but not ready 
for different reasons to be published.
Some time ago I was in position similar to Christine's. And I waited and waited 
until I decided to contact the authors of the notes. Sure enough, they intended 
to publish structure but the postdoc left and nobody else was able to do the 
work.
Christine, you have got good advises already. Contact the authors and if they 
are reasonable publish back to back, if they are not - you do not have any 
legal/moral obligations to wait.

My two drams,

     Vaheh



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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Etiquette on publishing if there is a crystallization 
report from someone else.

In the very early days, solving a protein structure was an enormous amount of 
work and since hardly any protein structures were solved there was a huge pool 
of unsolved structures. Under these circumstances, it was a waste of resources 
if two groups would work on the same protein.  To prevent this, people would 
publish crystallization notes so other groups could choose another protein to 
work on and this is what usually happened. Also, the purpose of scientific 
publications is that other people can use this information to progress their 
results.

Unless unethical actions were involved (holding up referee reports, making 
shortcuts to publish before the competition) I do not see a reason why you 
could not publish your paper. As Jürgen suggested, you may want to contact the 
other group to see if you could publish back to back.

my two cents,
Herman

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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lukacs, 
Christine
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ccp4bb] Etiquette on publishing if there is a crystallization report 
from someone else.
I'd like to get a community opinion on something.

If a group has published crystallization and diffraction data (Acta Cryst F 
style crystallization report), and you happen to have the same crystal form and 
have solved the structure, is there an unspoken rule that you don't publish, or 
an amount of time that you wait to allow the other group to publish before you 
do?  I am not talking about a high impact structure with a race to publish.

Just looking for a general consensus.

Thanks
Christine

Christine Lukacs, Ph.D.
Principal Scientist
Roche
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